hello
i snap pushed this KQ suited under the gun on the final table. now i feel i should have raised to 14000-17500, and only push if hits.
is this the right push ? ty



PokerStars Game #66895255896: Tournament #433295861, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (3500/7000) - 2011/09/02 6:51:51 ET
Table '433295861 16' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: laeti15 (81994 in chips)
Seat 2: Rocky4finger (228917 in chips)
Seat 3: Appendix Z (47024 in chips)
Seat 4: super G 34 (475377 in chips)
Seat 6: BEERM4N (135332 in chips)
Seat 7: bizon26 (127905 in chips)
Seat 9: Mechu87 (151451 in chips)
laeti15: posts the ante 700
Rocky4finger: posts the ante 700
Appendix Z: posts the ante 700
super G 34: posts the ante 700
BEERM4N: posts the ante 700
bizon26: posts the ante 700
Mechu87: posts the ante 700
laeti15: posts small blind 3500
Rocky4finger: posts big blind 7000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Appendix Z [Kh Qh]
Appendix Z: raises 39324 to 46324 and is all-in
super G 34: calls 46324
BEERM4N: folds
bizon26: folds
Mechu87: folds
laeti15: folds
Rocky4finger: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 4h Td]
*** TURN *** [4c 4h Td] [As]
*** RIVER *** [4c 4h Td As] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Appendix Z: shows [Kh Qh] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
super G 34: shows [6c 6s] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
super G 34 collected 108048 from pot
Appendix Z finished the tournament in 7th place and received $116.48.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 108048 | Rake 0
Board [4c 4h Td As Ad]
Seat 1: laeti15 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Rocky4finger (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Appendix Z showed [Kh Qh] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 4: super G 34 showed [6c 6s] and won (108048) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 6: BEERM4N folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bizon26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Mechu87 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

6.5 bbs and KQs

With 7BB there is no room for a different play and this is a +EV push, you also can't wait for others to bust first, because you are the shortest stack.
On a sidenote pls don't show the results in the HH.

i limp to hit flop and get it in big favourite.

With or without the results this is a snap jam.

but u get 2 chances

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...alculator.html

Plug in different stack sizes and get a feel for what ranges you should be pushing from in what positions. Often in ante periods you can shove wider than nash indicates but it is certainly a good starting point

and if you miss you're still in for several more hands.. a winning opportunity might exist there

A winning opportunity exists if you win that flip preflop... that's what turbo Mtts are all about...

100% shove

OK so your limp with AA worked well this time as:

1) You were fortunate to go heads-up to the flop in position.
2) The Board ran out perfectly for your opponent to get all-in with a weaker hand.

But, quite often you'll end up seeing a 3/4 way flop, which isn't great with AA when you could perhaps have ended up being against only one other player had you raised. A 4 way limped pot and a heads-up raised pot will probably have roughly the same chips in the pot, but when you're heads-up you'll have greater equity and a far higher chance of winning the pot.

I guess limping would be OK if you had very aggressive players to your left, who would look to punish limpers who they perceived to be weak. The Button's 'raising a limper' range is probably wider than his 'flat call/3-bet a raiser' range.

I think if you are going to limp AA, you've got the right stack size to do so. You're stack is large enough that players may isolate you with hands like AT, but equally small enough that you don't have to try and create a big pot (ie. with 100bbs, you'd raise AA to build the pot with a premium hand).

Under certain table dynamics, I suppose an argument could be made for limping AA with 12-25bb stacks. Those being that you have very aggressive players to your left who like to isolate limpers they perceive to be weak.

But still I would say it's generally better to not get fancy and just raise AA with 21bbs and try to get it all-in pre or on the flop.

As played, you could probably get away with making a slightly bigger raise on the flop to perhaps 2400, but that's a minor point.

well, this is a 6max mtt so your KQs preflop utg AI is correct with 6bb, keep in mind though you are playing shorthanded so KQ is a very good hand compared to a fr utg shuv.

theres really only 5 hands that really have you crushed. AA,KK,QQ,AK,AQ which is less then 4%


you have decent equity vs every other hand.

all in here w 7bbs good. limp with AA bad....unless high blinds and shove happy/aggro people in lp. gg.

u can profitably shove KQs up to 13-15 BBs UTG with antes even in a full ring game. KQs 6handed with 6-7 BBs = easiest shove ever