Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Facing resteal w QJ Facing resteal w QJ

02-27-2014 , 09:17 AM
Heroes steal 50%

PokerStars - $5+$0.50|1250/2500 Ante 300 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 32,245 (VPIP: 17.88, PFR: 12.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 151)
BB: 57,697 (VPIP: 19.74, PFR: 14.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.19, Hands: 230)
UTG: 21,813 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 85)
UTG+1: 95,429 (VPIP: 35.90, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 40)
UTG+2: 35,929 (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 20.31, 3Bet Preflop: 13.27, Hands: 276)
MP: 21,302 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 14)
MP+1: 54,500 (VPIP: 14.58, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 48)
Hero (CO): 160,330
BTN: 47,266 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 29)

9 players post ante of 300, SB posts SB 1,250, BB posts BB 2,500

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,450) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5,000, fold, SB raises to 31,945 and is all-in, fold

Hero???
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 09:38 AM
Before you click on that raise button you should decide what you are going to do if reraised/shoved on. If your going to play JQo , folding would be pretty bad, you're getting 1 to 2 odds to call here.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by all_in_pockets
Before you click on that raise button you should decide what you are going to do if reraised/shoved on. If your going to play JQo , folding would be pretty bad, you're getting 1 to 2 odds to call here.
This. Call SB, fold if anyone else rips it. Obv not loving it when looking villains 3b stats, but can't fold now. (3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 151)
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 10:38 AM
What do we think of making it $10k pre so we get more FE from SB.
Were calling regardless so I think we should scare him a little more.
He might fold an Ace rag he otherwise would have jammed cause he knows were in
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 11:06 AM
Marginal call given his stats balanced against his low M plus your frequent blind stealing.

What is his 3-bet shoving range? (77+,A7s+,A5s,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,A8o+,A5o,KJo+,QJo) or wider? You have 36.89% equity against this range.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 05:12 PM
Dont raisefold against SSs. As all_in_pockets said, if u raise, u ll have to call the ss push.

I openfold QJo in this spot.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 05:47 PM
You open fold QJ here?
Do you open fold KJ also?
Whats your opening range here then?
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-27-2014 , 06:15 PM
Hero hasn't 2 to 1 at all he has to call 27 into 43 so 27 into about 70k total pot.

You need more than 33,3% equity, you need between 38,5% and 39% equity (excluding ICM) so it's a close spot, but raise folding isn't horrible.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-28-2014 , 01:50 AM
Since when is it mandatory to call a 13 BB 3b shove from a player that hasn't 3b once in the previous 151 hands(!!!)?

Doing the numbers roughly you need about 39% equity. If you give villain a 10% shoving range (which may even be too much) you only have 32% equity. Fold.

You make money off these players by constantly stealing from them because their 3b range is so tight. When they show aggression that's your queue to give up this small pot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Position
What do we think of making it $10k pre so we get more FE from SB.
Fairly pointless as per my above sentence. When an opponent already has a very tight 3b range it's going to be fairly inelastic because there's so few hands in it to begin with, and even if opening more did knock out a hand or two it's not going to make up for the extra chips it takes to make him fold, and you've trapped yourself into calling now when he shoves in a spot where you know your equity is never great.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
02-28-2014 , 03:21 AM
raise folding is fine in this spot.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote
03-01-2014 , 10:59 PM
easy fold when it gets back.
Facing resteal w QJ Quote

      
m