DON JJ/AA FIRST ROUND DRY FLOP
10-12-2009
, 07:19 PM
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Secondly, poker is a game of decisions, not of results. The fact he actually had AA this time is irrelevant, other times he won't, so not included in the conversion. All we can do is make our decisions, based on our information.
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Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
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UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1440 M = 48
MP2: t1530 M = 51
MP3: t1980 M = 66
CO: t1470 M = 49
Hero (BTN): t1470 M = 49
SB: t1020 M = 34
BB: t1560 M = 52
UTG: t2010 M = 67
UTG+1: t1020 M = 34
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with J
J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, BB raises to t260, 1 fold, Hero calls t140
Flop: (t550) 8 2
9
(2 players)
BB bets t1300 all in, Hero calls t1210 all in
Turn: (t2970) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t2970) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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So, do we have a read on villain? None given by OP, very early in tourney, must consider villain as a random.
Pre flop, 1 limper, and so we made a good sized raise. No problems so far
We then face the 3bet by BB. Do we want to continue?
Well, if we flat here, then with JJ it's about 57% we see at least one overcard on a flop, i.e. we hate more than half the flops we will see, and as he has the betting lead and will probably c-bet, what will we do then? Probably fold unless we hit set. I'm not keen on this, as we would need him to stack off nearly every time we hit for setmining to be profitable.
Or we can 4 bet shove pre and hope he folds. Personally, I don't like this much either.
Or we can 4 bet to ~700 (half our stack). So, if he 5 bet shoves then are we calling? We've virtually committed ourself and yet have to consider that if we call we are at best flipping v AK, but very often facing a bigger pair. Don't like that much either. The number of times random villain 5bets TT- is so tiny.
IMO, I'd steer clear, fold and move on to the next hand. We only have a pair of Jacks. All I have to do in a DON is survive, and getting into an aipf confrontation, particularly in early Levels, is to be avoided where unnecessary.
Secondly, poker is a game of decisions, not of results. The fact he actually had AA this time is irrelevant, other times he won't, so not included in the conversion. All we can do is make our decisions, based on our information.
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Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1440 M = 48
MP2: t1530 M = 51
MP3: t1980 M = 66
CO: t1470 M = 49
Hero (BTN): t1470 M = 49
SB: t1020 M = 34
BB: t1560 M = 52
UTG: t2010 M = 67
UTG+1: t1020 M = 34
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with J
J1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, BB raises to t260, 1 fold, Hero calls t140
Flop: (t550) 8
2 9 (2 players)BB bets t1300 all in, Hero calls t1210 all in
Turn: (t2970) Q
(2 players - 2 are all in)River: (t2970) 8
(2 players - 2 are all in)__________________________________________________ ______________
So, do we have a read on villain? None given by OP, very early in tourney, must consider villain as a random.
Pre flop, 1 limper, and so we made a good sized raise. No problems so far
We then face the 3bet by BB. Do we want to continue?
Well, if we flat here, then with JJ it's about 57% we see at least one overcard on a flop, i.e. we hate more than half the flops we will see, and as he has the betting lead and will probably c-bet, what will we do then? Probably fold unless we hit set. I'm not keen on this, as we would need him to stack off nearly every time we hit for setmining to be profitable.
Or we can 4 bet shove pre and hope he folds. Personally, I don't like this much either.
Or we can 4 bet to ~700 (half our stack). So, if he 5 bet shoves then are we calling? We've virtually committed ourself and yet have to consider that if we call we are at best flipping v AK, but very often facing a bigger pair. Don't like that much either. The number of times random villain 5bets TT- is so tiny.
IMO, I'd steer clear, fold and move on to the next hand. We only have a pair of Jacks. All I have to do in a DON is survive, and getting into an aipf confrontation, particularly in early Levels, is to be avoided where unnecessary.
10-12-2009
, 07:37 PM
Quote:
First of all, the converter is everyone's friend... It can be yours too
Secondly, poker is a game of decisions, not of results. The fact he actually had AA this time is irrelevant, other times he won't, so not included in the conversion. All we can do is make our decisions, based on our information.
__________________________________________________ ______________
Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1440 M = 48
MP2: t1530 M = 51
MP3: t1980 M = 66
CO: t1470 M = 49
Hero (BTN): t1470 M = 49
SB: t1020 M = 34
BB: t1560 M = 52
UTG: t2010 M = 67
UTG+1: t1020 M = 34
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, BB raises to t260, 1 fold, Hero calls t140
Flop: (t550) 8 2 9 (2 players)
BB bets t1300 all in, Hero calls t1210 all in
Turn: (t2970) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t2970) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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So, do we have a read on villain? None given by OP, very early in tourney, must consider villain as a random.
Pre flop, 1 limper, and so we made a good sized raise. No problems so far
We then face the 3bet by BB. Do we want to continue?
Well, if we flat here, then with JJ it's about 57% we see at least one overcard on a flop, i.e. we hate more than half the flops we will see, and as he has the betting lead and will probably c-bet, what will we do then? Probably fold unless we hit set. I'm not keen on this, as we would need him to stack off nearly every time we hit for setmining to be profitable.
Or we can 4 bet shove pre and hope he folds. Personally, I don't like this much either.
Or we can 4 bet to ~700 (half our stack). So, if he 5 bet shoves then are we calling? We've virtually committed ourself and yet have to consider that if we call we are at best flipping v AK, but very often facing a bigger pair. Don't like that much either. The number of times random villain 5bets TT- is so tiny.
IMO, I'd steer clear, fold and move on to the next hand. We only have a pair of Jacks. All I have to do in a DON is survive, and getting into an aipf confrontation, particularly in early Levels, is to be avoided where unnecessary.
Secondly, poker is a game of decisions, not of results. The fact he actually had AA this time is irrelevant, other times he won't, so not included in the conversion. All we can do is make our decisions, based on our information.
__________________________________________________ ______________
Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1440 M = 48
MP2: t1530 M = 51
MP3: t1980 M = 66
CO: t1470 M = 49
Hero (BTN): t1470 M = 49
SB: t1020 M = 34
BB: t1560 M = 52
UTG: t2010 M = 67
UTG+1: t1020 M = 34
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with J
J1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, BB raises to t260, 1 fold, Hero calls t140
Flop: (t550) 8
2 9 (2 players)BB bets t1300 all in, Hero calls t1210 all in
Turn: (t2970) Q
(2 players - 2 are all in)River: (t2970) 8
(2 players - 2 are all in)__________________________________________________ ______________
So, do we have a read on villain? None given by OP, very early in tourney, must consider villain as a random.
Pre flop, 1 limper, and so we made a good sized raise. No problems so far
We then face the 3bet by BB. Do we want to continue?
Well, if we flat here, then with JJ it's about 57% we see at least one overcard on a flop, i.e. we hate more than half the flops we will see, and as he has the betting lead and will probably c-bet, what will we do then? Probably fold unless we hit set. I'm not keen on this, as we would need him to stack off nearly every time we hit for setmining to be profitable.
Or we can 4 bet shove pre and hope he folds. Personally, I don't like this much either.
Or we can 4 bet to ~700 (half our stack). So, if he 5 bet shoves then are we calling? We've virtually committed ourself and yet have to consider that if we call we are at best flipping v AK, but very often facing a bigger pair. Don't like that much either. The number of times random villain 5bets TT- is so tiny.
IMO, I'd steer clear, fold and move on to the next hand. We only have a pair of Jacks. All I have to do in a DON is survive, and getting into an aipf confrontation, particularly in early Levels, is to be avoided where unnecessary.
Thx 4 your explicit answer
10-12-2009
, 10:18 PM
Quote:
First of all, the converter is everyone's friend... It can be yours too
Secondly, poker is a game of decisions, not of results. The fact he actually had AA this time is irrelevant, other times he won't, so not included in the conversion. All we can do is make our decisions, based on our information.
__________________________________________________ ______________
Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1440 M = 48
MP2: t1530 M = 51
MP3: t1980 M = 66
CO: t1470 M = 49
Hero (BTN): t1470 M = 49
SB: t1020 M = 34
BB: t1560 M = 52
UTG: t2010 M = 67
UTG+1: t1020 M = 34
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, BB raises to t260, 1 fold, Hero calls t140
Flop: (t550) 8 2 9 (2 players)
BB bets t1300 all in, Hero calls t1210 all in
Turn: (t2970) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: (t2970) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)
__________________________________________________ ______________
So, do we have a read on villain? None given by OP, very early in tourney, must consider villain as a random.
Pre flop, 1 limper, and so we made a good sized raise. No problems so far
We then face the 3bet by BB. Do we want to continue?
Well, if we flat here, then with JJ it's about 57% we see at least one overcard on a flop, i.e. we hate more than half the flops we will see, and as he has the betting lead and will probably c-bet, what will we do then? Probably fold unless we hit set. I'm not keen on this, as we would need him to stack off nearly every time we hit for setmining to be profitable.
Or we can 4 bet shove pre and hope he folds. Personally, I don't like this much either.
Or we can 4 bet to ~700 (half our stack). So, if he 5 bet shoves then are we calling? We've virtually committed ourself and yet have to consider that if we call we are at best flipping v AK, but very often facing a bigger pair. Don't like that much either. The number of times random villain 5bets TT- is so tiny.
IMO, I'd steer clear, fold and move on to the next hand. We only have a pair of Jacks. All I have to do in a DON is survive, and getting into an aipf confrontation, particularly in early Levels, is to be avoided where unnecessary.
Secondly, poker is a game of decisions, not of results. The fact he actually had AA this time is irrelevant, other times he won't, so not included in the conversion. All we can do is make our decisions, based on our information.
__________________________________________________ ______________
Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1440 M = 48
MP2: t1530 M = 51
MP3: t1980 M = 66
CO: t1470 M = 49
Hero (BTN): t1470 M = 49
SB: t1020 M = 34
BB: t1560 M = 52
UTG: t2010 M = 67
UTG+1: t1020 M = 34
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with J
J1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, BB raises to t260, 1 fold, Hero calls t140
Flop: (t550) 8
2 9 (2 players)BB bets t1300 all in, Hero calls t1210 all in
Turn: (t2970) Q
(2 players - 2 are all in)River: (t2970) 8
(2 players - 2 are all in)__________________________________________________ ______________
So, do we have a read on villain? None given by OP, very early in tourney, must consider villain as a random.
Pre flop, 1 limper, and so we made a good sized raise. No problems so far
We then face the 3bet by BB. Do we want to continue?
Well, if we flat here, then with JJ it's about 57% we see at least one overcard on a flop, i.e. we hate more than half the flops we will see, and as he has the betting lead and will probably c-bet, what will we do then? Probably fold unless we hit set. I'm not keen on this, as we would need him to stack off nearly every time we hit for setmining to be profitable.
Or we can 4 bet shove pre and hope he folds. Personally, I don't like this much either.
Or we can 4 bet to ~700 (half our stack). So, if he 5 bet shoves then are we calling? We've virtually committed ourself and yet have to consider that if we call we are at best flipping v AK, but very often facing a bigger pair. Don't like that much either. The number of times random villain 5bets TT- is so tiny.
IMO, I'd steer clear, fold and move on to the next hand. We only have a pair of Jacks. All I have to do in a DON is survive, and getting into an aipf confrontation, particularly in early Levels, is to be avoided where unnecessary.
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