Doc Sands runs ok...it's pretty real to have 150+% ROI every month in 2009/2010 on a site running just "ok" lol

This x 100

He beat my buddy hu aipf ace 9 vs qq in the 125k this week. This was after winning 5-6 flips while being behind to get hu.

skill game imo!

Not to my knowledge

derail

These pots are also counterbalanced by others where they got sucked out on or coolered and busted out earlier than they should have. Maybe not exactly balanced but over a large sample but pretty close. Some people will run better than others of course even over the long term but almost everyone gets enough luck on their side to eventually ship some MTT wins if they have enough skill. The less skill they have the more luck they need.

what qualifies as above expectation in all in pots?

I think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying anyone is undeserving or it doesn't balance out in the long run, I'm just saying there are important pots and there are less important pots. The flip I lost to nickyluvshu at the final two tables of the Million is a fairly big point in both of our MTT careers that swings our total equity pretty seriously. Two pots jump out at my 750K final table where my 8s won a big pot against aces, and my top pair didn't hold against a naked 6-high flush draw heads' up. Heads up in some other major my AQ < Q4 AIPF. If the winner of any of those pots changes, particularly the 8s against aces (because that 2nd place gave me a big enough bankroll to play HSMTTS), my life winnings are dramatically different. The more skilled players will get to those points more often, but there's only so many deep runs in majors and only so many showdowns.

joe cada

Im switching primarily to cash because of the mounting near-miss frustration of running like dog**** when it counts deep in major prized mtts

dont do it, its right around the corner for sure, keep pluggin

Well ive made good money since I started full-time last year and had a few nice scores, with 20k being the largest.

But ive slowly realised that for life EV, grinding cash >>>> grinding mtt.

Im still gonna play sundays and select other mtt I like, because you cant beat that deep run buzz. But day in day out bread and butter mtts, and 12 hr sessions can kiss my ass imo.

I can live with the swings of cash and the suckouts much easier than the utter ******edness that is getting a beat/losing a flip/punting a stack, deep in an mtt, (especially large field HSMTT). Which happens all too often as unfortunately im not one of the ones who runs hotter than the sun in general. Im sure if I did it would be different.

If you want to drive someone insane, make them play MTT's.
There a ----ing nightmare!

Some use, learning all the strategy, if your getting your money in good, and still losing!

Don't give me all that ----, about luck evens itself out! Oh yeah!

The answer to your question, is very very few!

I think i run good.

I'm also good tho.

I understood what you said but I see it a bit differently than you. You look at the huge pots but that isn't always the deciding pot. The first time I had a 1K+ tourney win I was shortstacked early levels and shoved over a raiser with AJ and got called by AK. That one suckout was a turning point in the tourney for me. There were other important pots of course but if I didn't suckout with that AJ they never would have happened.

In a previous tourney of the same type I was deep in the money with a decent stack and was all in in a 3 way pot with the nuts and got sucked out on. Winning that pot would have got me chip lead and good shot at winning. The pot was a lot larger than when I had AJ but they were equally important since losing meant elimination in both.

Also you have coolers and other situations that sometimes go against you and sometimes in your favour. Some of these might only be small pots but these small pots might increase your stack enough that you survive a cooler or suckout later and recover to cash or FT. Or they might decrease your stack so you don't.

The big pots are important but they don't tell the whole story. Obviously you want to run good in big buy in MTT's with huge prizemoney and they do matter more. Just one super heater or cooler in the Main Event can upset the balance of luck bigtime dollar wise but it's usually a lot of smaller pots that went your way or didn't not just one big pot. They are just the easiest to remember.

The cool thing about tournament chips is they're have 0 cash value

Ive hit two one outers to then go on and have 91k and 52k scores, so I guess I run ok when its important

I sure as **** don't.

i ran so bad on flips and with over pairs it's a joke .
once lost 19 coin flips in a row
and usually losing 9 out of 10 daily.
and my over pair gets cracked 60% of the time all in pre .
you can see me in action for yourself and see how many bad beats i get daily
avielem on ftp

edit: seriously stop this ****

TRUE

FALSE

Further illustrates why he is an idiot..

Standard.

cant wait to tune in

Im the same.. ra[idly becoming disallusioned with mtt, it feels impossible like i have never been there and never will...

sigh

posting bad beat hands in this thread, as though there arent enough threads in mttc/2p2 to whine about your bad beats and pretend someone other than you gives a ****, is the nut low of 2p2 boarding.

also of course people run good at mtts. obviously the people that think theyve run bad outnumber the people who can admit theyve run good by about 1000:1, but thats kinda the way these things work. i have no idea how ive run, knowing that would require the ability to have an accurate idea of my expectation which basically no one has in mtts outside of a few dozen 180 grinders.