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01-05-2010 , 08:02 AM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 1.1 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t2135)
Button (t1540)
SB (t3060)
Hero (BB) (t1455)
UTG (t1250)
MP1 (t1455)
MP2 (t2605)

Hero's M: 24.25

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A
UTG bets t140, 1 fold, MP2 calls t140, 3 folds, Hero calls t100

Flop: (t440) 10, 7, Q (3 players)
Hero bets t280, UTG raises to t1110 (All-In), MP2 calls t1110, Hero calls t830

Turn: (t3770) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets t205 (All-In), MP2 calls t205

River: (t4180) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t4180

Spoiler:

Hero had Q, A (one pair, Queens).
UTG had K, K (one pair, Kings).
MP2 had 4, A (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP2 won t4180


I would definately call the UTG shove here. Does MP2's call make this an easy fold?
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01-05-2010 , 08:14 AM
please delete the results
i gonna stove it. seems very close, my 1st instinct is shove pre in a 1$ for value

since you would call the UTG shove i give him a wide range of flushdraws/worse Qs/89/JK/AK/AJ

MP good flushdraw, sets, two pairs, QK/AQ/JJ


Board: Tc 7c Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.083% 23.56% 07.52% 381004 121692.17 { AsQh }
Hand 1: 26.283% 25.03% 01.25% 404800 20263.67 { AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc7c, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, Qc8c, Qc7c, Q6s, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Jc7c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, 9c8c, 9c7c, 9c6c, 8c7c, 8c6c, 8c5c, 7c6c, 7c5c, 7c4c, 6c5c, 6c4c, 5c4c, 5c3c, 4c3c, AJo+, KJo+, Q9o+, 98o }
Hand 2: 42.634% 35.77% 06.87% 578434 111079.17 { TT, 77, AcKc, AcJc, KQs, 9c8c, AQo, KQo }


bet/call seems fine. maybe i forgot some hands for MP but i dont think it makes a big part of his range
anyone else, tighter range for MP?

Last edited by furo; 01-05-2010 at 08:33 AM.
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01-05-2010 , 08:19 AM
If you don't wanna fold to UTG's raise, it makes no sense to fold to anything else...
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01-05-2010 , 08:35 AM
after your flop bet your are sort of pot committed, so you should call but I'm not sure how often our TPTK is good against two opponents
to avoid that you could shove preflop
or check raise the flop, if you see raise shove from UTG and MP2 you can still fold (read dependent), if you just see a raise call you can shove yourself which looks very strong
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01-05-2010 , 09:06 AM
not sure pre is great...folding is probably best

as played once you bet I think folding is tough
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