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do u crush freerolls  need help do u crush freerolls  need help

02-06-2009 , 02:21 AM
I'm starting out with free rolls on poker stars and ft.i won one on ps a few days ago with 9k people, i got lucky once but i played good. besides that i cant get better then 200th.

by 10 min into it were down to 3k people. I play tight but it seems like that's not working.I don't like going all in without a made hand and with pockets i try to get max profits. what strategy did or does anyone use that crushes free rolls

the blinds go up pretty quick, i try to limp when i can, i raise 3 bb with a good hand, i dont wanna raise to much more get donk calls, but i usually get called with garbage. cbets don't work, check raise don't work ,bluffing gets called with 2nd pair. firing 2 or 3 bullets with top pair kills my stack, and i usually get unlucky, firing 2 or 3 bullets c betting with top pair ,half or quarter pot kills my stack. and u cant get a chaser off the hand. all in will get called or beat with garbage 2 pair.

I feel like if i don't crush these i will never crush money games. its good practice for patience but it might be bad for advanced play. if i get raised pre and checked raised after i fold mid pair half the time am i the donk here

Last edited by heyhi; 02-06-2009 at 02:28 AM.
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02-06-2009 , 02:31 AM
dude just make the jump to $1 games

half the tournaments on stars play like freerolls anyway
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02-06-2009 , 02:37 AM
freerolls are a tough way to get a roll started, that's how i did it
if you want to learn the game just read around here, if you want cheap practice try to build up 1mil play chips, which you can sell for $10/mil

looking back i finally realize how much of my time i wasted going nowhere in freerolls and worrying about beats i took in them and whatever. once you feel you've got a decent grasp on the game just deposit some money, seriously. all it takes is $50 and it will save you a lot of time.
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02-06-2009 , 02:47 AM
im not really trying to bankroll off these games. I feel like its a good way 2 see if im ready for cash games if the tourneys are the same in micro stakes
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02-06-2009 , 04:37 AM
tourneys under $12 play like free rolls imo
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02-06-2009 , 05:00 AM
heres a xample 9000 people free roll been playing 32 min. heres my stats

During current Hold'em session you were dealt 30 hands and saw flop:
- 2 out of 4 times while in big blind (50%)
- 2 out of 3 times while in small blind (66%)
- 1 out of 23 times in other positions (4%)
- a total of 5 out of 30 (16%)
Pots won at showdown - 0 of 0 (0%)
Pots won without showdown - 2


blinds go up about every 5 min i started at 1500 and im down to about 1300 blinds are25 50 thats only 28 bb for this level


PokerStars Game #24644914562: Tournament #137653203, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/02/06 3:51:01 ET
Table '137653203 967' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Strider7Sfga (2855 in chips)
Seat 2: dopeaych (1295 in chips)
Seat 3: Gullst (2975 in chips)
Seat 4: kiki savoie (2400 in chips)
Seat 5: OmurJustin (1325 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: crf-motors (1130 in chips)
Seat 7: kandaurov (1360 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Vadzonni9 (2990 in chips)
Seat 9: GOD0178 (3545 in chips)
Strider7Sfga: posts the ante 5
dopeaych: posts the ante 5
Gullst: posts the ante 5
kiki savoie: posts the ante 5
OmurJustin: posts the ante 5
crf-motors: posts the ante 5
kandaurov: posts the ante 5
Vadzonni9: posts the ante 5
GOD0178: posts the ante 5
OmurJustin: posts small blind 25
crf-motors: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dopeaych [Qh Qd]
kandaurov: folds
Vadzonni9: calls 50
kiki savoie said, "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzspeeeddddddzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
GOD0178: calls 50
Strider7Sfga: folds
aych: raises 200 to 250
Gullst: folds
kiki savoie: folds
OmurJustin: folds
crf-motors: folds
Vadzonni9: calls 200
Gullst is sitting out
GOD0178: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 9d 4h]
Vadzonni9: checks
aych: bets 600
GOD0178 said, "sorry 2 month old"
Vadzonni9: folds
Uncalled bet (600) returned to dopeaych
aych collected 670 from pot
aych: doesn't show hand
amur777 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 670 | Rake 0
Board [2c 9d 4h]
Seat 1: Strider7Sfga folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: aych collected (670)
Seat 3: Gullst folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kiki savoie (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: OmurJustin (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: crf-motors (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: kandaurov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vadzonni9 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: GOD0178 folded before Flop

i got qq in mid i raise 5 x the blind 225 and get a caller now im at about 1000 i bet half the pot and im just about commited
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02-06-2009 , 05:18 AM
few hands later aatill 50/100
Dealt to aych [Ac 3s]
Gollo88: folds
OmurJustin: folds
GOD0178 has returned
crf-motors: calls 100
kandaurov: folds
Vadzonni9: calls 100
GOD0178: calls 100
Strider7Sfga: folds
dopeaych: calls 50
amur777: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad 7s 6c]
aych: checks
crf-motors: checks
Vadzonni9: checks
GOD0178: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad 7s 6c] [4d]
kandaurov is connected
aych: bets 200
kandaurov has returned
crf-motors: calls 200
Vadzonni9: calls 110 and is all-in
GOD0178: folds
*** RIVER *** [Ad 7s 6c 4d] [Kc]
aych: bets 300
crf-motors: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
aych: shows [Ac 3s] (a pair of Aces)
crf-motors: shows [As Tc] (a pair of Aces - King+Ten kicker)
crf-motors collected 780 from side pot
Vadzonni9: mucks hand
crf-motors collected 920 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1700 Main pot 920. Side pot 780. | Rake 0
Board [Ad 7s 6c 4d Kc]
Seat 1: Strider7Sfga (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: aych (small blind) showed [Ac 3s] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: amur777 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Gollo88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: OmurJustin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: crf-motors showed [As Tc] and won (1700) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: kandaurov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Vadzonni9 mucked [8h 3h]
Seat 9: GOD0178 folded on the Turn

board was checked flop i bet 2/3 turn and river got out kiked and ate half my chips
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02-06-2009 , 10:53 AM
erm... wat
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02-06-2009 , 11:04 AM
need a stradgey??ermmm....??? erm erm... check out the title ermy rmy ermmm conservitive not working blinds go up fast lots of donks ermidy ermidy ermidy??? do you need a translation.erm...


http://www.erm..google.com/webmaster...translate.html. erm
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02-06-2009 , 12:31 PM
lol

GIVE THE MAN A STRATEGY!!!
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02-06-2009 , 02:11 PM
shove / fold. easiest strat. in freerolls. (adjust when big stacked). but otherwise avg/short if youre gonna play a hand just shove. ahhahahaha.
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02-06-2009 , 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by heyhi
if i get raised pre and checked raised after i fold mid pair half the time am i the donk here
Yes.

lol.

Last edited by pajo!; 02-06-2009 at 03:27 PM. Reason: op: freerolls aren't poker
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02-06-2009 , 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by heyhi
need a stradgey??ermmm....??? erm erm... check out the title ermy rmy ermmm conservitive not working blinds go up fast lots of donks ermidy ermidy ermidy??? do you need a translation.erm...


http://www.erm..google.com/webmaster...translate.html. erm
gtfo. his "erm wat" comment was pretty justified imo.

(i had a tangent typed up but i dont wanna be banned after ssync's "be nice to morons" thread a week ago so i just went with gtfo instead)
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02-06-2009 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by heyhi
im not really trying to bankroll off these games. I feel like its a good way 2 see if im ready for cash games if the tourneys are the same in micro stakes
100% false

they will do nothing to improve and lot to mess up any real poker you intend to play
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02-06-2009 , 03:52 PM
op, freerolls are just plain tough...i know this because i personally have made much more playing small stakes real money tournaments then I ever did playing freerolls.

in all honesty though, freerolls are a great way to try out different styles and strategies. play around and see what works best for you as there isn't really any straightforward way to play them. also the massive fields and crappy payout structure aren't very helpful. finally keep in mind that many people have built up rolls playing freerolls so keep your head up.
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02-06-2009 , 04:03 PM
PM Mike DH, he is one of the best freeroll players of all time.
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02-06-2009 , 04:08 PM
Freerolls resemble real poker about like playing Chess with my four year old sons pre-school class. I may win a lot but it is not preparing me to play real players. I suggest depositing even just $50 and play the $1 45s. It will amaze you how much more even a $1 tournament resembles real poker. Personally I think there is very little difference in the play from the $1 BI level to the $20 BI level, and a lot of times even higher in MTTs.

In SNGs there are a lot of good regs at the $6-$12 BI level but are all still very beatable and contain many many people that shouldnt even be playing a FREEROLL at their skill level.

Freerolls mean nothing imo, except you understand which hand beats what.
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02-06-2009 , 11:26 PM
this is a joke right?
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