Determining Shove Range against X Limpers
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 260
Hypothetical.
I am shortstacked (30bb) and I have 3 limpers ahead of me. How do I determine the range to shove that will be +EV when factoring in the chance that one person will call with top 4%?
3 situations can occur:
1. All Fold (+4.5 BB)
2. Called and lose -30BB
2. Called and win 34.5 BB
So I know my shove range needs to be close enough to top 4% that I win something like 47% of the time, so that the FE that generates +4.5 BB makes this shove +EV.
Can someone help me develop a more sound mathematical formula in order to factor these situations according to # of limpers?
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,682
Don't shove for 30bbs, ezgame.
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,606
First, don't shove 30bb, you might shove more like 15 in the spot you describe. Second, I think you can calculate this in sng wizard but you need to be able to guess at your opponents limping/calling range which differs very wildly from person to person.
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,780
this question is extremely open-ended and you can't really get a good answer. it depends on the number of players left, pay out structure, tightness/looseness of limpers, etc.
pretty much just don't shove 30bbs. also don't shove 25bbs, or 20bbs, and generally don't shove 18bbs.
