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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Don't even know how to respond to you because several people already posted stuff that's wrong/illogical on your part that you just ignored.
(in response to your saying Hero was drawing dead)
21% is nowhere near enough to bet get it in versus check raise. I hope that's clear for everyone.
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Anyway, in this particular situation we have the following info:
- V is known to play wild/unorthodox style
That is an assumption we made from playing how many hands and seeing how many showdowns with villain? Less than 50 hands? 2 showdowns? I would dismiss this info then. Also, "wild" can also mean he is willing to get it in with any second or top pair here which is bad for us.
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
- V is big stack
So? Does it mean he is going to be check raising where he has no fold equity?
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- Hero is short stack and faces ICM pressure
That actually contradicts your and op's points, also this statement is contradictory in itself. If we are short it means there is less ICM pressure on us as opposed to middle and bigger stacks. If you think that we face ICM pressure, why are we betting second pair no draw/no kicker and piling over a check raise risking our whole stack?
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
- V makes tiny raise, risking little
It does not mean anything really. If anything, any raise from him looks comitting due to stack sizes, by making it tiny he might want to create an illusion of fold equity when there is no, in reality.
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Do you disagree with any of those points? Yet somehow you conclude that his xr range has us crushed, which is totally inexplicable to me.
Those points are ambigious and irrelevant when we break down the hand. And when we break it down we find ourselves with a rock bottom of our range, facing a check raise in a very low spr versus a range we have 30% equity at most (if we are generous and creative when assigning bluffs to our villain). Of course I concluded we are crushed by his range, wasn't a hard conclusion. Even checked it in calculator trying to be as biased as possible towards his bluffs and we are still crushed.
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
From a lot of your strat posts, you seem a bit inflexible in being able to give people credit for playing aggressively or doing things outside the norm of what you experience. And yet you berate others for being assumptive.
I am close to being 1 million hands in cash, I've climbed all the way from z25 to z200, (that's not even taking into account tens of thousands of mtts I played before I switched to cash) and although my experience is nothing compared to some online regulars, I can assure you it's more than enough to see all kinds of "outside the norm" and "playing aggressively" plays from weak players.
And this play coming from a big blind it's always lights out game over for our hand.
But ofcourse some live "regular" will chime in with his priceless observation "BUT ONE TIME I SAW PEOPLE DO IT WITH BLUFFS THEY BLUFFING WHAT DO THEY HAVE GOTTA BE BLUFFS HE AGGRO". And in that case I have to show myself out, because who am I to tell people playing 1k$ live mtts that bet/3bet shoving 76hh on Ks7d5s is bad, right.