You know they are doing it, they know you know that they are doing it.

Yep the dirty thieving bar stewards are stealing your bb watcha going to do about it?

Do we hit them with the hammer and 3 bet them light?

Or take a flop and try to outplay them oop?

Or just bide our time give up a few bbs and wait for a decent hand?

A little from column A, a little from column B.

depends on stacks and if there are antes...calling sucks donkey balls...3 bet 3 bet and 3 bet...pre prepared to go to war light

ss would you recommend doing this like straight away to try to nip it in the bud so to speak or are you generally giving them credit for a hand 1st maybe 2nd time they attempt this ?

Cos i'm thinking its better to set our stall out straight away and 1st time they try a steal...... bosh 3 bet with atc aslong as we have the stack for it ldo.

(Apologies for all the cliches)

so many factors but you need to see a trend first...antes are huge...without I let them bully me more...also stacks...if you have that magic 14-19BB and he is not short or huge I 3 bet shove wide http://www.pokerhand.org/?3854694

also consider what you are trying to accomplish and why...if there is enough in the pot and you think he is light than have at it...

first time I typically don't 3 bet ATC cause we have no info...he could be a rock...he could be a nut who's gona 4 bet shove ATC...we just don't know yet

Jeebus the dude in that hands call....... thats the kinda thing that puts me off trying it tbh.......... theres too many nutters about.

In retrospect i guess it was a good call/read but i dont think i make it even if i suspect you're at it.... idk

I protect my BB by indirectly by shoving a whole lot. I don't really defend my BB that much, but I shove so much in other situations that I end up getting a lot of walks in the BB.

Shove on the BB from the SB, shove on a SB limper, shove a few more times for flavor, and people will leave you alone.

I think a non-shove reraise of a blind steal is usually a waste of time. Most guys aggressive enough to raise on your BB are more than happy to shove over your reraise. If I have any intention of protecting my BB, I just put all my chips in the middle.

That's a really good hand example...

Depending on stages of tournament I'll call based off my hand or raise with a strong hand. Usually will get them to stop especially if you call, flop a monster.. and drag about 30-40% of their chips out of them by the river. That guy just kept on checking from now on.

Isnt this vulnerable to trappy vllains if you keep doing it? How many bbs you shoving? i mean what if you're deep you still shoving?

Bear in mind I'm not shoving indiscriminately, and table conditions don't always allow me to get away with these shenanigans. I generally don't pull these moves against the guys who are aggressive/smart enough to attack my blinds -- I do these things to the weak players, establish a "crazy" image, and the smart people often decide to leave me alone.

I like to identify passive, average stacked players and pick on them. I'm not going to make the same move over and over against a player I believe to be smart and aggressive. When the blinds/antes start to really matter there are usually one or two nit-tards that you can exploit. Most players don't realize you're just picking on sir-folds-a-lot, they just see all of your chips in the middle too often. Most people think twice before trying to steal from a psycho.

Without the weak/tight players at the table it's hard to do any of this, and I have to pull something else out of my bag of tricks. But if I find a weak/tight guy I'll grind on him until his stack is 5bb, and then when he's finally forced to call everybody gets to see that I'll shove on them with J2o.

So, in a nutshell, my approach is to try to pick on weak players relentlessly and establish a nutty image. The by-product of this image is that most players won't try to tangle with my blinds unless they have a hand.