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Could use some help with bet sizing Could use some help with bet sizing

03-16-2010 , 01:21 AM
nothin too crazy here just wanted some help with my bet sizing. im sure i needed to bet more on the turn. i bet that amount to try to look like a weak float and steal attempt. my thinking was that if he actually hit the flop (which he did) that the turn was a perfect blank for him to jam.


Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t100 - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t36500 M = 19.21
CO: t64530 M = 33.96
BTN: t83230 M = 43.81
Hero (SB): t85740 M = 45.13

Pre Flop: (t1900) Hero is SB with 8 J
2 folds, Hero raises to t2000, BB calls t1000

Flop: (t4400) 4 9 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t3000, Hero calls t3000

Turn: (t10400) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t3555, BB calls t3555

River: (t17510) K (2 players)
Hero bets t9889, BB calls t9889

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t37288
BB mucks 9h Ah
Hero shows 8d Jd (a flush, Jack high)
Hero wins t37288

Last edited by rmfan31; 03-16-2010 at 01:46 AM.
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03-16-2010 , 01:22 AM
bet more everywhere cram river

3k pre
4500 flop
10200 turn
cram river
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03-16-2010 , 01:29 AM
i would usually go something like:
2600 pre
4400 flop
9999 turn
whatevas left river

as played i kinda like over-betting the river enough to put him in, since it looks like you have Xd and missed and $4 players hate to fold.
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03-16-2010 , 01:32 AM
min raising pre is fine with a histroy of him being rather nitty, its not relaly a hand you want him to call but if hes folding a lot you can put in the min and accompish the same as 2.5-3k...

as played I usually resort to a stack a donk line here...

bet like 3100 on flop and try to crai turn.....If his turn bet doesnt set up an easy crai I might just call and shove all rivers(except maybe a d)
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03-16-2010 , 01:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djkelly69
i would usually go something like:
2600 pre
4400 flop
9999 turn
whatevas left river

as played i kinda like over-betting the river enough to put him in, since it looks like you have Xd and missed and $4 players hate to fold.
you could have copy/pasted cigaro and +1d to save time.
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03-16-2010 , 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
min raising pre is fine with a histroy of him being rather nitty, its not relaly a hand you want him to call but if hes folding a lot you can put in the min and accompish the same as 2.5-3k...

as played I usually resort to a stack a donk line here...

bet like 3100 on flop and try to crai turn.....If his turn bet doesnt set up an easy crai I might just call and shove all rivers(except maybe a d)
games are easy
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03-16-2010 , 01:37 AM
Could have quoted and saved even more!
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03-16-2010 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by YouHave2outs
you could have copy/pasted cigaro and +1d to save time.
haha there was actually no responses when i opened the thread (i open-in-new-window all the threads that interest me so it takes some time to reply in them)

but yeah what he said, great minds and all that.

Last edited by djkelly69; 03-16-2010 at 01:50 AM.
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03-16-2010 , 01:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCuster_911
min raising pre is fine with a histroy of him being rather nitty, its not relaly a hand you want him to call but if hes folding a lot you can put in the min and accompish the same as 2.5-3k...

as played I usually resort to a stack a donk line here...

bet like 3100 on flop and try to crai turn.....If his turn bet doesnt set up an easy crai I might just call and shove all rivers(except maybe a d)
i decided to go with a standard open minraise all tourney..

so the general agreement is to lead out otf? is this regardless of past activity, such as actively opening and cbetting most flops?
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03-16-2010 , 01:50 AM
minraising bvb is pretty bad because they're gonna have position on you if they call, a good player can profitably call with pretty much atc. I'd only do it if you have a strong read that they suck and will fold a lot.
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03-16-2010 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mcmurder
minraising bvb is pretty bad because they're gonna have position on you if they call, a good player can profitably call with pretty much atc. I'd only do it if you have a strong read that they suck and will fold a lot.
its a $4 180... thats pretty much my read on every player with less than 4 stars by their picture.

so if i minraise every time i open, youre saying i should more than minraise every time i open bvb? im new to minraising.. usually go with the universal 2.5-3x but i thought id try it out for this tourney, figured id stay consistent with it, regardless of hand or table position.
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03-16-2010 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mcmurder
minraising bvb is pretty bad because they're gonna have position on you if they call, a good player can profitably call with pretty much atc. I'd only do it if you have a strong read that they suck and will fold a lot.

min raise pre, stab on flop when u miss = printing money at 4.40 180s imo

with that being said might as well balance out that cbet range and bet the flop and let him spewww to u



or

+1 to cigaros post
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03-16-2010 , 03:23 AM
minus history c/c/lead is ok to control the potsize, you want to do the opposite here though. im definitely going 3 streets
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