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07-08-2015 , 07:08 PM

The Dominator

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 179

My image was tight aggressive. I had 3 betted out the blinds last hand without getting called. My opponent was playing VP:33 PR :31. Is there any other way to play this hand?

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07-08-2015 , 07:10 PM

The Dominator

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 179

Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37017646

MP1: 332,231 (41.5 bb)
MP2: 172,958 (21.6 bb)
MP3: 267,637 (33.5 bb)
CO: 328,805 (41.1 bb)
BTN: 348,520 (43.6 bb)
Hero (SB): 228,589 (28.6 bb)
BB: 318,866 (39.9 bb)
UTG+2: 171,178 (21.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

5 folds, BTN raises to 16,999, Hero raises to 48,000, BB folds, BTN calls 31,001

Flop: (112,000) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 45,777, Hero raises to 179,589 and is all-in, BTN calls 133,812

Turn: (471,178) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (471,178) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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07-08-2015 , 07:41 PM

oldsilver

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,955

idk whether you rep any pair with a 3! -> c/jam line post, so there's no FE (especially against a V where there was very little FE to begin with). as it turns out you end up in quite a +EV spot but i'd guess it's a -EV line against a reasonable V range here.

would prefer to flat pre and let him hang himself post when you connect, or quietly muck and wait for a better spot. KQ is by no means a mandatory 3!

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07-09-2015 , 02:19 AM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 6,102

Just flat pre, really dislike the 3! here.

As oldsilver said, it's really hard to rep anything with this line. You're basically turning your hand face-up as a non-made hand that has too much equity to b/f hence the c/j. I'd rather just b/f flop as played bc we're not getting jammed on otf often at all.

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07-09-2015 , 03:33 AM

TDB

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 92

Preflop 3bet is fine. B/f on flop. We definitely need to cbet in this spot.

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07-09-2015 , 05:26 AM

Dragons_Egg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

Would generally just flat pre, but why play it any differently than you did if you believe that villain's b/c range is as wide as that.

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07-09-2015 , 06:51 AM

mashxx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7,840

You can flat pre, you can 3b/c vs some, I might either overshove this flop or b/f.

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07-09-2015 , 08:53 AM

L3goH3ad

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 207

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Originally Posted by mashxx

You can flat pre, you can 3b/c vs some, I might either overshove this flop or b/f.

I like 3b/calling especially vs someone who is running 33/31 opening from the button. What's everyone's thoughts?

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07-09-2015 , 11:54 AM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 6,102

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Originally Posted by L3goH3ad

I like 3b/calling especially vs someone who is running 33/31 opening from the button. What's everyone's thoughts?

OP provided no sample for those stats and didn't say whether they were positional stats for the BTN or overall

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07-10-2015 , 08:19 AM

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The Dominator

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 179

I had over 150 hands on him and they were his overall stats. He also was more aggressive from late position. I would usually flat KQ here but I hate playing out of position to someone whos range is so high and could literally have any 2 cards.

I would probably fold if he 4 bet as he had not 4 bet a hand out of all the hands I had on him. Also I would bet fold most flops that I miss but I felt a check raise was optimal here as I am still 40% against him on this flop even if he has a hand like A 10 or calls with a lower pair.

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07-10-2015 , 11:42 AM

#11

TellMeMore

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 379

i like 3betting over flatting...it gotta have more cev

u not gonna be able to play very well oop here...folding the best hand sometimes...getting vowned with the worst...not beein able to control the size of the pot the way you like to

plus 3betting alone got some value...hes calling worse...sometimes folding better...obv the stack/pot ration is now worse and it gets more highvariance

tbh i dont mind flatting but think that 3betting got more cev

rly dont know about flop tho

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