No real reads on villain, this was a few hands into the tournament.

Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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CO: t2985 99.50 BBs
Hero (BTN): t2940 98 BBs
SB: t2970 99 BBs
BB: t3000 100 BBs
UTG: t3120 104 BBs
UTG+1: t3105 103.50 BBs
UTG+2: t3000 100 BBs
MP1: t3000 100 BBs
MP2: t2880 96 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with A 5
3 folds, MP1 raises to t60, 2 folds, Hero calls t60, 1 fold, BB calls t30

Flop: (t195) A A K (3 players)
BB bets t60, MP1 raises to t375, Hero calls t375, BB calls t315

Turn: (t1320) 3 (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets t2565 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds, BB folds

My thinking is he's got a full house or A with better kicker too often. Even though later in the tournament I saw him stack off with A6 against AK on a flop of A 4 8. Do you think a small % of times he'll show up with QQ / JJ /10 10 or flush draw enough to validate a call?

i dont think hes just shoving on the turn with an ace.. im never folding here..maybe a flush draw? it is only a dollar tournament

no, sorry 8[[[

He prolly has a k - donkament

Not sure I can fold here, you have played it pretty passively so far and under reppped your hand.

Villan can easily have a bare K here, I am calling.

fold preflop ldo

I'm pretty sure you can safely fold the flop as well, cold calling is so ugly. I'd rather 3bet than cold call.

Def fold pre flop.

If your not prepared to get it in when you flop trips here, what are you hoping to achieve by calling pre? Do you like your hand if you pair your A? your 5? By calling pre your playing your hand for straight and flush value which I dont think you have the odds for. If a couple of more players had flatted before you I dont mind a call but not to a single raise.

As played tho i'm getting it in. It's a $1 tourney, you'll see villain turn up with KQ, KJ, any two clubs, smaller pairs and a whole host of other junk. Plus some A's that beat you obv.

Is calling pre here really that awful with how bad people are going to play in a $1 tourney? I'd be flatting here all day for 3% of my stack in a live tourney. As played I don't see myself ever folding here in a $1 tourney. There are soooo many more combinations of KQ/KJ in his range than the case A and he'd probably treat those hands like the nuts.

fold OTF. pretty clear it's a better ace scared that the FD would get there


assuming it's not a rebuy.

ppl in $1 tournaments are scared ******** of aces

Problem with weak aces is that you often will find yourself out-kicked at showdown. The love for any ace at the micros will put you behind many times. As the hand is played I'd say you need to re-raise and take a decision on how to play then and there or fold the flop. You will get yourself into tricky situations unless you decide then and there to avoid the though decision at the turn/river...

I see an ace, with a better kicker then your most of the times.

Fold pre.

Never folding the flop, it's a 1$ donkament. If he has a better ace, so be it. Many other things in his range for sure.

Am I the only one rooting for 3bet this pre?

why would you want to 3bet a5s pre-ante?

anyway I'd fold flop maybe, but certainly fold turn.

Hey Guys,

I agree w/ Qminator fold pf if your going to fold post flop w/ that flop. Just not sure what you are hoping for on the flop. If you are going to fold here post flop always fold here pf.

Hope this helps!!

We gonna take the pot preflop or on alot of flops for a great part of the time. I think we want something other that pure nuts in our 3betrange here, and this hand is perfect for that purpose. I dont know if anyone here agrees with me, but I'm pretty convinced that 3bet is much better than call anyways.

well this is a 1 dollar tourny, I don't think theres any need to balance your 3betting range vs opponents who don't even think about what you have.
As for saying we take down the pot preflop, we rarely do. 1 dollar opponents raise/call almost their entire (non-nut) range. They don't fold.

It's been said so many times, but just play ABC and value town them instead of getting tricky

Nothing wrong with the way played. Good fold at turn no problem. To call preflop with A5s is not bad at this level. You can destroy many higher AX with 2p or 77-KK type hands with A played slowly post flop and of course you have flush and straight draws. You do not call from early position only blinds and btn so its not that bad if at all provided you remain careful and aware of domination issues.

At flop the bb bets and the original guy raises big . You can do 2 things here. Call or 3bet to double his raise to represent AX or fh. Both are strong choices but i go for call as played. Why? well calling is already strong enough because his bet is very big. If he has the real thing he will be very eager to continue to play strong or call big bets . If he was bluffing noway in hell he pushes like that with the kinds of hands you guys imply that are not better AX or FH already. I think its more often he has a bigger AX here that is scared of other things happening to lose and decides to take it down or get called by worse kicker than go for value. But its ridiculous to bluff or go for a semibluff with a push here vs someone that looks like AX. So only a better AX that is afraid plays this way typically. So nice fold.

I think the other hands that you have in mind play a lot different and do not have any desire to bet so strong the flop and then ignore a very strong message flop call at turn to shove . A call is good because it controls situation and keeps pot smaller. With a 5 you can destroy a better AX often and another K is not bad either . Overall its a decent approach. No need to reraise at flop after such big bet because if you are beat you are beat at flop anyway so the turn can only improve things.

This guy doesnt know we are capable of folding if we have smaller AX as evidenced by the opinions of so many here that say they arent folding. For this reason its hard to imagine he plays this way with anything other than higher AX . Its not impossibe but its rare to have something else here that we beat.

Fold is ok .


Also notice by calling the big bet at flop we allow the BB to remain involved expensively. When the shove comes at turn we have to worry about both the original mp1 guy or the bb maybe having AX here. With 2 people that have called big bets at flop the mp1 guy cannot shove here with stupid hands and draws that do not even have full equity often. One more reason to fold here seeing higher AX risk.

His raise preflop indicates something like AQ,AJ,AT,A9 often . He only raised to 60 (2bb) . If he had better hands probably a raise to 90 or 120 i think. This is why he doesnt have KK,QQ,JJ,TT here plus he wouldnt be ignoring K,A postflop to bluff with such hands.

Thanks for all the feedback so far. If the villain had raised anything sizable like 3xbb or more I would have folded in fear of being out kicked, but I've seen people min raise with things like KQ, 22 so his range imo was pretty wide. I was prepared to call down this flop until the aggressive bet on the turn. Interesting to read how others would have played it. Granted this is a $1 donkament but I try to play every tournament the best I can and getting it all in here seemed neg ev.

Fold pf for RIO reasons that are abundant in spots like this. If you flop a 5 you're never thrilled going to showdown and if you flop an ace you're always scared vs a better kicker. Plus it's hard to get money in from a worse hand when you flop an ace unless it's AA5 and they have like AJ type stuff. 3b pre is bad too for reasons stated in thread. People call so wide and we want folds not calls with A5.

3ball get it in!

+1 for fold pre. As played I'm getting it in OTF