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11-01-2011 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_fold
You state in your CardRunners interview...



... and yet you've broken even at a $40 ABI on the largest poker site around. Everyone I know that is remotely good at poker has won a lot of money on PokerStars.
You have a really bad idea of sample size for a player of your caliber. A couple of thousand tournaments is nothing in massive fields variance-wise. Just since I have the WPT on the background I remember that Bond18 is lifetime down on Stars, 1banditpanda is breakeven too over a sample larger than me even that he's up like 350k on other sites. If you want to book a some kind of bet I'm sure I can find dozens of mtt players who are up 6 figs on other sites and down lifetime on Stars.

This is my 2nd year playing MTTs for a living and this will be my second $100k+ year playing them. From where exactly the winnings come from, I just can't see it being very important?

And I'm up 51% ROI 23k profits even on Stars too when you exclude 3-figure buyins. I'm basically up a ton from mid-stakes and down a ****load from sundays because I've played every single wcoop, fcoop, whatever sunday tournaments losing every single time.

Here's my Stars midstakes graph, missing my 55 cubed win last week for some reason:



And high stakes graph (I'm up at these stakes too on every other site)





So yeah man, I have run awful on Stars on Sundays mass field tournaments over a sample size of 300 tournaments, I must be really underqualified to coach mid-stakes MTTs (which is what I am doing, I'm not a nosebleed coach like mement_mori).


And to any haters, I'm only going to say this once and then give up and let people think what they want: I am not delusional and I absolutely do not think that I got hired because I was the best available player. I have massive respect for a ton of grinders out there and I fully acknowledge that I'm not a great player by any means. There are many people I know from here or from other forums who I truly think are better than me at teh pokers and based on their skills and/or results they would deserve to be CR coaches more than me. However I think (and I'm pretty sure CR thinks too) that there's more to it than just results. I play quite a different style from most regs, and my strengths are where most MTT players' weaknesses are (and vice versa), and therefore I think that my videos are at least somewhat unique. I've always learnt the most from the videos of people who play very different to me, and I have high hopes that my videos could benefit players who might even be better than me overall, because they may broaden their view and help them re-think spots / add some new stuff to their arsenal.

My vids definitely aren't for everyone, but just on a general level I think its good for a training site to have different types of players and because of this it's not always the best players who bring the most value to the roster. I'm pretty biased to comment on my own value but at least I'm going to do my absolute best, and I can only hope it'll be enough
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11-01-2011 , 08:24 PM
Keep doin your thang Miikka, f the haters
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11-01-2011 , 08:28 PM
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I play quite a different style from most regs, and my strengths are where most MTT players' weaknesses are (and vice versa), and therefore I think that my videos are at least somewhat unique.
If you are so good at knowing where our weaknesses lie, then you should be better at exploiting us! And you should certainly crush at a $40 ABI.
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11-01-2011 , 08:31 PM
Has anyone ever told you TT that ur **** awesome.
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11-01-2011 , 08:34 PM
Good signing, congrats.

Last edited by Langerdang; 11-01-2011 at 08:34 PM. Reason: games gon get spewy :)
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11-01-2011 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_fold
If you are so good at knowing where our weaknesses lie, then you should be better at exploiting us! And you should certainly crush at a $40 ABI.


[?] crushing at a $40 ABI

Ps. Meatballer in case you're asking me some sort of questions and wonder why I'm not answering, including all the other threads where you spam me too, that's because you're on my ignore list and I can't see a thing.
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11-01-2011 , 08:45 PM
I'll concede that you've done pretty well on Euro sites. I also think many players who play exclusively on Stars would be better off "site selecting" and only playing softer Euro networks. However, most poker players are lazy or can't put up with playing on slightly worse software.

Thus I think the best insight you could give as a teacher would be to stay away from larger networks -- it's the approach that has worked for you. I still fail to see why someone would want to pay for your advice on playing individual hands.
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11-01-2011 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_fold
I still fail to see why someone would want to pay for your advice on playing individual hands.
That's an opinion I have no trouble accepting at all (although I would be happier accepting it if it didn't come from someone who wins as much as money as you do, but hey people are different). Luckily CR has a lot of other pros as well whose style is pretty different from mine, so I hope you'll find some of them valuable and if you ever for some reason end up watching my video, feel free to give me feedback - I'm always looking to improve.

Last edited by Chuck Bass; 11-01-2011 at 08:55 PM.
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11-01-2011 , 08:57 PM
Well at least this thread confirms a few MTTc theories.
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11-01-2011 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Well at least this thread confirms a few MTTc theories.
What might they be?
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11-01-2011 , 09:01 PM
Your handling the criticizing very well chuck, congrats on the CR!
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11-01-2011 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by theguru
Your handling the criticizing very well chuck, congrats on the CR!
Yup. I came away with a better impression of him than I had prior to this thread. Bear in mind that I'm only trying to share my insight on how I perceive Chuck Bass' poker ability -- this is a poker forum, after all. For all I know he could be a great guy who has also run 2 standard deviations below the mean at MTTs. If he has a +$500k year in 2012 I'll probably disappear from this forum out of embarrassment.

Last edited by TT_fold; 11-01-2011 at 09:10 PM. Reason: he ran away with he's tail between he's legs
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11-01-2011 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Well at least this thread confirms a few MTTc theories.
^^^



Dear TT+fold,

If you don't think that Chuck is particularly good then surely it benefits you for him to be teaching mediocre regs to spew every which way or are you suggesting that you are so altruistic that you are sticking up for the CR members and trying to ensure that they get the best possible teaching regardless of how it effects you?

If I was you I'd sit back and figure out what emotion is driving your posts ITT!





Congrats Miikka...I'll be tuning in!

Last edited by TStar; 11-01-2011 at 09:20 PM. Reason: written before "he ran away with he's tail between he's legs"
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11-01-2011 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TStar
^^^



Dear TT+fold,

If you don't think that Chuck is particularly good then surely it benefits you for him to be teaching mediocre regs to spew every which way or are you suggesting that you are so altruistic that you are sticking up for the CR members and trying to ensure that they get the best possible teaching regardless of how it effects you?

If I was you I'd sit back and figure out what emotion is driving your posts ITT!





Congrats Miikka...I'll be tuning in!
Yes. I've given away free strategy and game selection advice on this forum many times.
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11-01-2011 , 09:56 PM
well done
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11-01-2011 , 10:31 PM
go mikkaaaaa, grats man & gl
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11-02-2011 , 01:52 AM
congrats buddy.

cant wait to dust off that CR account. -.0
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11-02-2011 , 02:51 AM
guess cardrunners was getting desperate

Spoiler:
surely this is a level
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11-02-2011 , 05:37 AM
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11-02-2011 , 05:48 AM
you? as a coach?
note to self dont fold to fins any longer and treat them as russians.

well deserved and it was just a matter of time.

edit: haters gonna hate

Last edited by furo; 11-02-2011 at 05:55 AM.
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11-02-2011 , 09:00 AM
Gj, saw ur first video and it was very different in a good way.

Nits gonna nit.
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11-02-2011 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TT_fold
If you are so good at knowing where our weaknesses lie, then you should be better at exploiting us! And you should certainly crush at a $40 ABI.
lol what is this- i know a euro grinder on a 3k breakeven stretch on stars and hes up over a quarter mill in profit online- 2k sample size is not that much for stars esp considering how large the fields are there- check out some of Noah SDs blog posts and tell me I`m wrong
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11-02-2011 , 12:08 PM
thought tt was leveling lol
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11-02-2011 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave47
lol what is this- i know a euro grinder on a 3k breakeven stretch on stars and hes up over a quarter mill in profit online- 2k sample size is not that much for stars esp considering how large the fields are there- check out some of Noah SDs blog posts and tell me I`m wrong
I'm not leveling. It's one thing to be a player with a good track record on Stars over 10k games who happened to have one breakeven stretch of 3k games. It's another thing entirely if someone who's breakeven lifetime there can become a CardRunners pro. Otherwise everyone who's breakeven -- whether they've run at, above, or below expectation -- can get paid to make videos so long as they have a funny blog.
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11-02-2011 , 12:46 PM
I don't see anything troll-y or level-y about what TT is doing...his posts in this thread follow a pretty logical progression, starting with "what is your Stars SN."

If it's somehow uncool to come into a congratulatory thread and talk about someone's poker results objectively, then whatever, but it like TT said, it's a poker forum, he's allowed to discuss poker. With a position as a CR pro, it seems like you kinda become a public figure and open to examination. Plus, TT's line gives Chuck a chance to state his case, which he has done.

For my two cents, I don't think Chuck's results on Stars necessarily have any correlation to how good he'll be as a coach/instructor. One can struggle in certain areas of poker while being great in others. I have beaten Stars tournaments over a decent abi and sample size (I think), but I often have trouble articulating even basic concepts, and I would suck completely as a coach.

But, whether or not his results are standard and whether or not they are indicative of his value of as coach, Chuck's assertion that "no one he knows wins on Stars" comes off disingenuous, and I think that's what Ricky was arguing against.

Anyway, congrats to CB, I was planning on getting a CR subscription anyway, and I will check out your videos!
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