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03-05-2011 , 02:11 PM

rmthawk64

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Going to take this street by street because I feel like there's decent discussion on pretty much all of them.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, 40/80 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8093412

BB: 4,566 (57.1 bb)
UTG+1: 2,710 (33.9 bb)
UTG+2: 10,120 (126.5 bb)
MP1: 1,164 (14.6 bb)
MP2: 3,850 (48.1 bb)
MP3: 5,575 (69.7 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,270 (40.9 bb)
BTN: 4,572 (57.2 bb)
SB: 2,450 (30.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

5 folds, Hero raises to 200, 2 folds, BB raises to 480, Hero calls 280

standard? Pretty sure this is a clear flat or fold vs a random villain in a $26, correct?

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03-05-2011 , 05:31 PM

zegota

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If you feel comfortable getting it in on a q or k high flop, I think you have the odds to flat. If you're nervous about doing this, just fold. I see no reason to 4 bet when you have a pretty hand in position.

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03-05-2011 , 05:44 PM

ssnyc

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I'd rather you were a fraction deeper

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03-05-2011 , 05:57 PM

skater3598

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fistpump fold pre and thank him

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03-05-2011 , 06:43 PM

rmthawk64

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You guys do realize we're getting about 3:1 direct on a call IP with KQs, right?

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03-05-2011 , 07:39 PM

KuPoB_K

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I can never fold here. I see people 3 betting QTs, A6 etc and even if i know he is never light i'd still call. I'll also very rarely 4 bet here with this stack sizes.

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03-05-2011 , 08:08 PM

goldeneye

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Its a small raise + Your somewhat deep + Your IP

Maybe not any one of these but all 3 of them together seem go enough reason to call.

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03-05-2011 , 08:10 PM

lilman2636

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Easy flat imo

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03-05-2011 , 08:52 PM

Sven2812

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Folding when u get 3:1 IP? Nits ITT

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03-05-2011 , 09:17 PM

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dereds

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it's not just about the fact hero is getting 3/1 it's more to do with the fact there will be a spr of 3 when he calls so can't fold top pair, if he's right stacking off with top pair he's also going to have to get it in on J9x flops, so he has some rio

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03-05-2011 , 09:18 PM

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stevepa

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there was certainly a time when folding pre was right (bc small 3bets were the nuts 100% of the time). Now everyone sizes stuff small, often even when deep because they've seen sickos make small 3bets so I don't think you can read as much into the sizing (if anything I'd discount AK/AQ/JJ/TT type hands a bit). I would call.

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03-05-2011 , 09:50 PM

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ShortyTheFish

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What good is 3-to-1 in position without much of a post-flop plan?

I'd call, but I wouldn't be too excited about it.

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03-05-2011 , 11:14 PM

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Scary_Tiger

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I'd fold versus a random, flat versus lots of fairly aggressive villains.

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03-06-2011 , 01:51 AM

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unrealzeal

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i flat almost always IP

Last edited by unrealzeal; 03-06-2011 at 01:58 AM. Reason: oh we are in position yeah flat ez peazy

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03-06-2011 , 07:49 AM

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mjw006

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I'd always flat here. It's diamonds too that adds equity.

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03-06-2011 , 12:33 PM

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xblah

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i'd pretty much never fold here pre

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03-06-2011 , 01:52 PM

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Howtown

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very easy fold readless

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