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Comment my two nitfolds plz Comment my two nitfolds plz

08-27-2010 , 06:34 PM
yo!
both folds are from the 5.50reg.

hand 1:


No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 1000/2000 Blinds (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 (t135186)
CO (t54943)
Button (t74037)
Hero (SB) (t127416)
BB (t54299)
UTG (t58879)
UTG+1 (t23224)
MP1 (t45446)

Hero's M: 42.47

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 10
6 folds, Hero bets t3777, BB calls t2777

Flop: (t9554) Q, 5, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t5222, BB raises t14000, Hero calls t8778

Turn: (t37554) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t18000, Hero folds

Total pot: t37554


he just moved to the table, but i got a few hands from him of earlier tournies or something.
he runs 21/17/6% 3bet for 35 hands.
i called his flopraise quiet fast, after his turnbet i looked him up at labs and saw he is 5k up at 800 mtts



Hand 2:

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 1250/2500 Blinds (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t60493)
MP1 (t85706)
MP2 (t113685)
MP3 (t33063)
CO (t65833)
Button (t91762)
Hero (SB) (t113233)
BB (t60254)
UTG (t47375)

Hero's M: 30.20

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 9
UTG calls t2500, 6 folds, Hero calls t1250, BB checks

Flop: (t7500) 4, 6, 9 (3 players)
Hero bets t4999, 1 fold, UTG raises t10000, Hero folds

Total pot: t17498


yo, i also labbed him and saw hes up 30k for 1.5k mtts.




what do u say about the folds and feel free to comment my play overall


fresh
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08-27-2010 , 07:13 PM
hand 1:
imho is terribad fold tp+gutshot bvb vs 25x , i bet call flop , bet turn and go broke, as played shove turn.

hand2:
i check call flop, as played i call.
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08-27-2010 , 07:48 PM
what tournaments are these from?

what did you expect to happen when you called the flop raise and checked the turn in one

why are you lead folding to a minraise in 2
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08-27-2010 , 07:51 PM
2 is fine, 1 is kinda gross because that turn card improves a ton of his bluffs otf but i definitely think you're good the vast majority of the time on the flop. i still get it in but i'm not too excited about it
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08-27-2010 , 07:54 PM
As played I like the fold in hand 2 way more than the one in hand 1. That said Im not crazy about how u played either one.
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08-27-2010 , 07:57 PM
i see u dont like the folds, but which ranges do u give the guys given they arent ******ed and at least solid players?
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08-27-2010 , 08:00 PM
I don't think the actual folds are as interesting as how you got into that position
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08-27-2010 , 08:50 PM
what ya mean?ü
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08-27-2010 , 08:55 PM
That the fold on the turn in hand 1 is a result of how we get there. Like I can understand 1 as played but what are you doing on different turns when he raises the flop?

In hand 2 what are you expecting him to call with and raise with when you lead 2/3 pot
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08-27-2010 , 09:05 PM
hand 1, i wanted to go broke on most turns, but here arrived 76 and JT, a big part of bis bluffing range imo,

hand 2, there was still a fishy bb in the pot, and the "reg", i just looked him up after his minraise could also be a fish with a wide range here, i just folded coz a reg limped utg with 19bbs and minraised such a dry flop expecting me to be a fish coz unknown and 5.50$ tourney


u understand my thaughts?
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08-28-2010 , 12:11 AM
1: 3b jam flop
2: c/c flop
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08-28-2010 , 12:54 AM
1: I don't feel qualified to give good advice about this hand. I saw busto's suggestion and that seems like a pretty good solution to me.

2: I think it's a pretty good spot to just c/c... as played I too am definitely weirded out by a winning player limping UTG and minraising flop vs two perceived fish in the blinds. I don't think it's a bad fold given the reads.
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08-28-2010 , 04:49 AM
Hand 1 three bet/jamming is good against an aggressive player.

Hand 2 I don't know why we are check calling with top pair on a nine high flop. I actually have not problem with the way you played hand 2 although not sure you need to bet that much.
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