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09-25-2016 , 01:34 PM

Ispitan

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Is this a mandatory shove or is there another line of play? I'm a little worried about 14.5bb next to me obviously, but I figure he almost never calls.

If this is a mandatory shove, what other hands to I open shove in this exact spot?

All four opponents were fairly weak players, but no crazy call downs from them. I don't think it matters in this spot tho, does it?

Poker Stars, $1.32 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37439845

BTN: 1,500 (7.5 bb)
SB: 1,684 (8.4 bb)
BB: 1,755 (8.8 bb)
Hero (MP): 5,661 (28.3 bb)
CO: 2,900 (14.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K

Hero raises to 5,636 and is all-in, 4 folds

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09-25-2016 , 04:14 PM

SharkytheFish

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You have 28bbs. Shove or fold aren't your only options. I would raise 2x with the intention of folding to a shove from the CO but calling a shove from any of the shorter stacks.

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09-25-2016 , 05:08 PM

Ispitan

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raising with the intention of calling three of the four opponents seems terrible to me because I then often flip for the chips rather than picking up the pot uncontested most of the time

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09-25-2016 , 09:47 PM

RagingAZN

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Open shoving 28 BB's means that you will only get called by hands that beat you.

I'm also in the raise a "normal" amount and call shoves from the smaller stacks.

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09-25-2016 , 10:45 PM

Moldran

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Mandatory shove imo.

With minraising you are only inducing re-steals from small pocket pairs and more Ax combos, and you don't want to flip in that situation.

Better hands for minraising would be something like JJ+, maybe AKs, because then you don't mind getting shoved on by those hands. Then you can also minraise the bottom end of your range, like KJo, QJo etc.

But generally, if a push is so profitable, just take it.

Good other hands for shoving here would be 55-99, ATo, AJo, AQo, KJs.

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09-26-2016 , 07:56 AM

SharkytheFish

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Originally Posted by Ispitan

raising with the intention of calling three of the four opponents seems terrible to me because I then often flip for the chips rather than picking up the pot uncontested most of the time

How often are all three of the short stacks getting it in when you raise 2x. Almost never. The short stacks have no room left to manoeuvre and they are going to be calling a shove with more or less the same range of hands they shove over an open. A raise achieves everything a shove does without risking half your stack.
You can also get shoved on by worse if you min raise as the short stacks may believe they still have some fold equity. Im not saying shoving is wrong but I favour a raise here.

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09-26-2016 , 06:59 PM

Pop.

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This hand is all about the CO...the rest dont matter since their range is close to identical when it come to calling a jam and rejaming vs a minR.

If CO is tight...I would Rfold vs him and call the rest.
If CO rejams small pps, Axs and sooted broadway but folds these hands to a jam...then its obv you just need to rip it in!

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09-27-2016 , 02:41 AM

Colinb7

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This is a 14.5 Bb jam, and I don't think u go far wrong with jamming as a default. When u start building specific reads v CO then maybe raise/fold. Well played OP.

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10-03-2016 , 08:56 AM

fghwerr

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I would just raise to 2.5bb and try to steal/ iso BTN, SB, BB. I would fold against a CO shove. However if u have some notes on the CO u can shove but I wouldnt do that 100% of the time. If the CO is a nit he will still fold a lot (ICM), and if he shoves u will loose less chips.

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