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11-14-2013 , 06:51 PM

ddx19

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PokerStars - $3.16+$0.34|75/150 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 2,911 (20 BB)
Hero (CO): 5,035 (34 BB)
BTN: 2,500 (17 BB)
SB: 1,964 (13 BB)
BB: 1,090 (7 BB)

SB posts SB 75, BB posts BB 150

Pre Flop: (pot: 225) Hero has 6

UTG fold
Hero?

No hands/reads on villains. Unsure if best play here is a fold, r/c, r/f or open shove.

Thoughts?

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11-14-2013 , 07:22 PM

slayerv1fan

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minraise, fold to everyone but bb

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11-14-2013 , 11:05 PM

Ronny Mahoni

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Originally Posted by jdawg91

minraise, fold to everyone but bb

If villains were somewhat active youd just fold??? Or just shove?!

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11-15-2013 , 02:12 AM

VikingsFan93

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Impossible to answer this without reads IMO. OP I would suggest that you invest in a HUD.

If the two players on your left are nits/not going to take any risks with the shorty around then min raise-fold (except against BB who is too short to fold to) looks good. In this case if you get shoved on by someone other than the BB you can expect a monster and just fold.

If the two players on your left are loose-bad and likely to flat your raise or call your shove then I could see just folding this.

If the situation is somewhere in between which will be the case probably over 50% of the time then a shove seems good.

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11-15-2013 , 10:39 AM

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Wouldnt ever open shove here pre antes in this spot with btn having 17bbs, and I don't think hes going to be capable of shoving wide enough to make minning not profitable (hes going to have to 3b ridic wide). If SB is crazy, you could r/c him, but once again, don't think most players are going to be capable of 3bing that wide

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11-16-2013 , 02:40 AM

VikingsFan93

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Yeah you are probably right Jdawg. Min raise-fold seems like the best approach here (except to the BB of course).

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11-16-2013 , 04:06 AM

chav

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Originally Posted by jdawg91

Wouldnt ever open shove here pre antes in this spot with btn having 17bbs, and I don't think hes going to be capable of shoving wide enough to make minning not profitable (hes going to have to 3b ridic wide). If SB is crazy, you could r/c him, but once again, don't think most players are going to be capable of 3bing that wide

What about post ante?At what eff stack size would you start shoving here?15BBs?
Also how do u account for the fact that only 1 stack is at 17BBs?Do you avarage out say avrg of 13&17BBs=15BBs.
Thx in advance i appreciate everyones input on this as i have trouble in this spots and usually push/fold but i am unsure how to analize spots with various stack sizes behind.

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