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08-28-2015 , 02:09 PM
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Would u choose check/call line?
What would u do as played



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $15 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37087882

MP2: 3,000 (60 bb)
MP3: 8,620 (172.4 bb)
CO: 3,884 (77.7 bb)
BTN: 1,929 (38.6 bb)
SB: 2,825 (56.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 5,710 (114.2 bb)
UTG+1: 3,435 (68.7 bb)
UTG+2: 2,802 (56 bb)
MP1: 3,683 (73.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T J
5 folds, CO raises to 150, 2 folds, Hero calls 100

Flop: (325) 9 5 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 150, Hero raises to 425, CO raises to 1,000
Hero??
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08-28-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Need info on villain.

Flat flop 3 bet as played, take it from there. I can find a c/f turn as played depending on what villains stats are (and obviously turn card).
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08-28-2015 , 02:49 PM
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Lets look at some of the hands that give us action here...
99+,55,22,A9s,K9s,AhKh,AhQh,KhQh,AhJh,AhTh,KhTh,Qh Th,Ah8h,Ah7h,Ah6h,Ah5h,Ah4h,Ah3h,Ah2h,A9o,K9o
If this is correct we have about 40% equity.
I would call 3bet and prob c/f turn with these stacks
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08-30-2015 , 05:34 AM
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C/c is standard here readless tho right?
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08-30-2015 , 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace Acumen
Lets look at some of the hands that give us action here...
99+,55,22,A9s,K9s,AhKh,AhQh,KhQh,AhJh,AhTh,KhTh,Qh Th,Ah8h,Ah7h,Ah6h,Ah5h,Ah4h,Ah3h,Ah2h,A9o,K9o
If this is correct we have about 40% equity.
I would call 3bet and prob c/f turn with these stacks
You should take out all the Th and Jh hands from the range lol
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08-30-2015 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeInternetKid
C/c is standard here readless tho right?
+1.



After we c/r i don't think we should ever be flatting his 3bet. His range is gonna be way more nuttish/value with the sizing he takes and i'm not even sure we are getting direct odds to call.

If we really do have ~40% vs his range 4bet shoving is probably better than flatting since we are likely not gonna see the river if we call and miss. And in some of the cases when we do hit turn he might not put more chips in or hit his redraw. So 4b shoving should have a higher EV than flatting here.

But x/c >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
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