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Ceasars 0. Turn nut flush and all hell breaks out on river Ceasars 0. Turn nut flush and all hell breaks out on river

09-14-2010 , 10:25 PM
There's definitively a chance I botched virtually every street here, which is part of the reason I'm posting this hand.

We have just come back after break, blinds 100/200/25. The villains in this hand; UTG2 seems competent. late 30's early 40's. Has been pretty active, opening lots and calling in position, def the most aggro on the table, but I haven't seen him get out of line. BB early 30's and thinks he's great, he isn't.

These two have some history. A few hands before the break BB slowplayed KK against UTG2. Don't quite remember how the hand went, but I know that he only called pre, and let the other guy hit his straight OTR after playing the KK really passive on a T high rainbow board. He was tilting bad after that hand and I think he might be itching for a fight, which might influence the hand here.

Oh yeah, stacks. I've got 20k, BB 15k and UTG2 covers easily, 30k maybe.

Anyway, UTG2 opens to 250, I call with AJ OTB, BB flats. Flop 664, 2 spades. BB check, UTG bets 450, I call, BB call. Turn is a red facecard, Q I think. BB checks again, UTG bets 1k, I call, BB calls again. River is the 2 of spades, BB checks, UTG bets 3k, I raise to 8k, BB thinks for 10 seconds and shoves, UTG2 thinks for a long time, and then he shoves. Me, I wonder wtf just happened.

So pre I'm OK calling. I could 3bet, but I felt better calling having position and all. Flop is where I though about raising. Maybe I should have, but right then I felt good calling, seeing another card, not committing too many chips blahblahblah.

Turn I dunno. I though I seriously had 3 options, in hindsight I probably picked the worst one and was lucky I got to see the river. I probably fold if he bets more tbh, it's just that 1k was so small in relations to the pot I felt I got good odds, and OTR I'm seriously raising for value. Probably should have just called, but even if I did, the madness will still be the same.

And yeah, I really want to fold, but wtf do they have??
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09-14-2010 , 11:09 PM
UTG+2 opens to 250 on 100/200... hmmmmmm

Except for that everything looks fine, river is a easy fold as long as one (or more) of villains is close to beeing competent
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09-14-2010 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by $ergioRamo$
UTG+2 opens to 250 on 100/200... hmmmmmm

Except for that everything looks fine, river is a easy fold as long as one (or more) of villains is close to beeing competent
Umm, ok, maybe remember the blinds wrong, could be 50/100, could be that he opened to 450.... little sketchy about details since it's been a few days, but I do remember 1k was the turnbet, because I felt it was really small in relation to the pot
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09-15-2010 , 12:00 AM
paired board is gonna be tricky, some of your outs are not clean...I think ur only mistake is raising the river u don't have the nuts and there are 3 streets of action vs 2 players, i'm just calling there prob
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09-15-2010 , 12:04 AM
Turn seems kinda close, I think I fold there with BB yet to speak. I'd call if the board wasn't paired obv.

Agree that the river is Muck-city unless both of your opponents are clueless.
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09-15-2010 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JackOfSpeed
I'd call if the board wasn't paired obv.
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surely you jest!

seems like a pretty trivial fold op
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09-15-2010 , 10:26 AM
Fold! theres at least one house out there..
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09-15-2010 , 12:37 PM
Don't see how you can call and expect to win, sucks, but it's a fold. I think I fold on turn on the paired board... Flat on river if I got there...
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