Are Carbon MicroDons Beatable?
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
Are the low level double or nothings on carbon even beatable?
When the bubble comes along the fish just pass chips to each other for 10 minutes straight while only coming after my blinds. When I jam with a slightly below average stack I get insta called by three of them with junk like 29, 53, etc. How do you win in a 5v1 game sng?
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 12,124
Worst title ever?
I'll leave this open a little while if you answer this question: what is the rake?
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
well I was getting at the fact that fish assault me in a group everytime but that works;
11% at 1 buck, and 10% at 2 buck
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Have you read the faq, do you have 100 buy ins?
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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That sounds juicy, except for the rake. Fold more. How many games have you played in order to determine that you in particular are being targeted?
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
My bankroll is like 150. I never deposited I played some freeroll sngs and won a few bucks before they got rid of them. I don't have any special software that tracks stats but from point accumulation I know it's well over a thousand games. Right now my roi is (est) around 4 or 5%. Not sure what sample size is good for don.
I am on a huge "downswing" that I did not think could happen at double or nothings. I have not changed how I play but the rake has recently changed and the players have been playing differently in a "bad" way.
Examples:
I think I have to cash over 55% to profit. One player will limp/minraise and another in the big blind will go all in for like 10chips more and the first player with a huge stack insta-folds everytime. And then on the bubble when I ship I get called by someone with a similar stack who has folded all game but decides to play 56 at that moment. I'm pretty sure that hurts them and me in the long run.
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,859
Pretty sure all kind of micro stake games are well beatable unless the rake is incredibly high. Doing that for other reasons than learning the structure makes no sense though, unless you somehow enjoy a mechanical grind for a ridiculously low $/h. Guess it's hard to find sth that pays worse or is more dull.
If you feel you're getting cheated, this might well be true, DoNs are colluder's heaven for obvious reasons.
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Those games are filled with terrible players, absolutely they are beatable
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 23
i play the 220's at carbon and i don't think anyone is helping each other out intentionally, they just usually pick on the smaller stacks since that's easiest way to win. most are idiots though and will shove on any sign of weakness or if they hit middle pair, just pick good spots to get it in and try and double up sooner than later.
even short stack towards the higher blinds you can sometimes easily get back in it by picking good spots to be aggressive. the players that are constantly trying to steal blinds with any two cards might get lucky a few orbits but usually it bites them back
i'm only a little ahead there with the DoN's, and anything i've won usually goes towards mtt's so i'm still break even, so my knowledge is limited to the 4k hands I have in those
I miss the Bovada triple ups, with those you actually come out with more than you put in since the doubles are 2.20 for only 4, but i guess the triples would be even more prone to people teaming up
Join Date: Feb 2014
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just dropped 20 in a row at 2.20. the same awful reg calls with 92 on the bubble every time and wins
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 819
I use to play the Dons regularly but found them too slow and boring for my taste, I now play hypers.. While these beats your taking are frustrating and seem to be at a high frequency they are just proof that you are playing in the right game. Eventually they wont suckout and you will take the moniez.
My suggestion adjust so you go to the bubble with a larger stack and nitt it up to the cash....stop pushing the action on the bubble. That caliber player will gamble and youll still get paid, you dont have to "beat" them...
20bi swings happen
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 12,124
Plx read faq about bankroll requirements. STTf is not you blog. It is best to phrase questions in the form of a hand. I have this, I am playing against this player, this is what I think I should do. Good luck.