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10-01-2009 , 02:25 PM

Engel

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btn just got to the table 2hands prior to this and bb has folded everytime his blind has been raised over 120 hands. can i c bet this given my stack?
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t9450 M = 42
CO: t9124 M = 40.55
BTN: t2250 M = 10
Hero (SB): t3150 M = 14
BB: t3505 M = 15.58
UTG: t7032 M = 31.25
UTG+1: t5602 M = 24.90

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is SB with 4

4 folds, BTN calls t150, Hero raises to t600, 1 fold, BTN calls t450

Flop: (t1350) A

(2 players)
[color=red]Hero?

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10-01-2009 , 02:30 PM

Francis_MH

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Fold pre.

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10-01-2009 , 02:30 PM

homanga

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Originally Posted by Francis_MH

Fold or shove pre.

fyp

Fold looks good.

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10-01-2009 , 02:31 PM

Derbos

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shove or fold pre because youre oop w/ effective stacks at 21bb and <20bb against the limper

that is to say fold because you'll be crushed everytime you're called.

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10-01-2009 , 02:36 PM

Engel

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I know i should be folding pf, but i'm play his hand not mine.
if he had an A he should of raised pf and i'm thinking this didn't hit his range. would this be a +ev cbet

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10-01-2009 , 02:59 PM

JMurder3

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I don't see any point in this raise if you don't intend to c-bet. Would fold pre, but as played, why not c-bet?

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10-01-2009 , 03:12 PM

monikrazy

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you might as well c-bet, should bet out everything but an a or 6 unless the villain realizes how poorly you are playing (this is a horrible raise preflop because of weak hand strength and position) in which case he might stay around with anything

if your cbet is called you need to shut it down

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10-01-2009 , 03:17 PM

blue chip

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damn, i gotta get back into those 4$ tourneys.

This is a horribad play. I shove this most of the time, sometimes I'll fold.

as played, you have to c-bet

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10-01-2009 , 03:19 PM

blue chip

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

if your cbet is called you need to shut it down

notice that your c-bet will leave you're remaining effective stack @ about 2/5 of the pot. LOL.

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10-01-2009 , 03:20 PM

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Scary_Tiger

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As played, I would bet/fold 700. But shove/fold pre.

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10-01-2009 , 03:29 PM

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monikrazy

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Originally Posted by blue chip

notice that your c-bet will leave you're remaining effective stack @ about 2/5 of the pot. LOL.

yea but no one calling the flop should be folding to your shove on the turn ever, you do have a point tho, shoving the flop might be beter for the way this hand was played, a read on the villains range here would be very helpful

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10-01-2009 , 03:44 PM

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blue chip

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

yeah, just pointing out how bad a raise from this position is.

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10-01-2009 , 03:45 PM

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ssnyc

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fold pre

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