Live 80$ Buy In Tournament at Horseshoe in Louisville. 9 Players remaining, Blinds are at 2k/4k. This is the last hand of 2k/4k, next hand will be 3k/6k.

BB - 60,000 (Rough Estimate)
Me, UTG+1 - 109,000
Player, MP - 140,000 (Rough Estimate)

I limp from EP with 4d5d and player does the same. SB folds and BB checks his option. Flop comes:

2d 3h 5c

BB checks and I put out 8k. Player tanks for about a minute then pushes out a call, BB calls as well almost immediately. Turn comes:

10d

BB checks again this time I put out 27k leaving myself 70k behind. Player announces raise and doubles my bet to 54k leaving himself around 80-90k behind. BB folds and my question becomes what is the correct move between folding, calling (which would leave me 43k behind), or shoving.

Thanks for the help.

fold pre. never limp like that.

Figured as much. Is there any good books/posts about limping, when you should and shouldnt in MTTs?

Also, ignoring my mistake limp, any advice on what the correct move is when he popped me on the turn?

Limping out of position is very rarely correct (read: never). In fact, limping with no limpers ahead is almost never correct IMO.

Given the way you played the hand, you have about 28% pot equity on a call and its fair to assume that, if made, the flush is a winner and the straight is a winner some of the time (I don't think a 5 or a 4 will make you a winner too often here). Based on the strength of the play, I don't think you have much fold equity, so shove is probably not right... I see no reason why he'd have a ten here. If you call, you have ~18% to make the flush and another ~15% to make the straight, so depending how often the straight is good, the call is marginal one way or another. However, you still have 43k behind, which, if you get there, you'll probably win from your opponent, taking your implied odds to 18% (if he calls any bet on any river).

To summarize, the decision depends on 3 factors: if you think a straight is a winner, if you think villain will call any bet on the river, and how much of an edge you think you have over the table (if you're way better than the table, fold and wait for a better spot). Taking all three into consideration, it sounds like a marginal fold, but calling isn't terrible.

Thanks.

As far as the limp goes I was limping with the mindset that by limping from UTG+1 with a low suited connector type hand that I had that I could price several others into limping (since limping is contagious) thereby build a pretty nice size pot to win if I hit my flop. Also incidentally the table was not very active pre. Only about 1 in every 3 or 4 hands saw the action raised.


And as far as the hand I figured exactly as you laid it out. I figured the 4 to be no good, but I also thought one of the 2 remaining 5s would be good. I did figure the straight to be most likely good but i was definitely thinking of 4x6x a lot in my head and he wanted to end the action now when the flush draw hit, but to call the 27k and brick the river would leave me with less than 8 bigs left next hand. I decided to muck and wait for a better spot.

He ended up showing that he somehow floated an Ax10x. This possibility never entered my mind and im wondering if it should have, since it would have been an easy call with 20+ outs.

people will raise/iso your limps with anyrange of cards... the only time i ever really like it is with qq+ in the blinds or in mid position to induce an iso so i can 3bet... otherwise its just a fishy play imo

So youre saying limping is incorrect in any spot without a big pocket pair? Does anyone else agree?