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08-24-2009 , 01:56 PM
is this a call?
i know the odds are there? but do i actually beat anything here?



Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+2: t5105 M = 42.54
Hero (MP1): t6690 M = 55.75
MP2: t3300 M = 27.50
CO: t4430 M = 36.92
BTN: t2825 M = 23.54
SB: t4220 M = 35.17
BB: t3400 M = 28.33
UTG: t6835 M = 56.96
UTG+1: t5910 M = 49.25

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is MP1 with K J
3 folds, Hero calls t80, 1 fold, CO calls t80, 1 fold, SB raises to t160, BB calls t80, Hero calls t80, CO calls t80

Flop: (t640) 2 4 5 (4 players)
SB bets t240, BB calls t240, Hero calls t240, CO folds

Turn: (t1360) K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1360) J (3 players)
SB bets t400, BB folds, Hero raises to t1040, SB raises to t3820 all in,
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08-24-2009 , 02:06 PM
Raise or fold PF, usually fold but I'd probably raise it up from a later position like you're in here and relatively deep. If I limped I wouldn't be calling a raise OOP w/ a likely dominated hand, the fact we're sooted is inconsequential.

Flop we have 2 overcards + FD = **** ton of equity, you want to get your stack in the middle, so raise. Your raise is both for value and to force out other made hands that might have equity against you in a 4-way pot = your chances of winning at showdown go up if you can make some of them fold. And because our equity is usually thin at like 55% (of course at worst 35% if up against a set), we don't midn if all of them fold and we take it down uncontested either.
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08-24-2009 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by upancumerrrr
is this a call?
i know the odds are there? but do i actually beat anything here?
Yes, you beat an overpair and loose to a set of jacks, a straight and a few other sets but really I wouldn't be calling with this hand in your position, may have raised pre depending on table dynamics etc...once I got a flush draw I would have been raising the flop bet and betting the turn at minimum..your spot kinda sux now..I would fold now since it's so early..
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08-24-2009 , 02:13 PM
+1
as played raise turn
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08-24-2009 , 02:15 PM
wow, you misplayed pf, flop & turn. as played i call the river.
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08-24-2009 , 02:18 PM
you butchered every street. Raise or fold pre, bet/get it in flop, same goes for turn... shove river.
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08-24-2009 , 03:02 PM
Raise flop, bet turn, call river.
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08-24-2009 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ECJENSEN56
Raise flop, bet turn, call river.
this.

on the turn id be looking to get this in if i didnt already on the flop
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08-24-2009 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by M1cKmAcK
you butchered every street. Raise or fold pre, bet/get it in flop, same goes for turn... shove river.
sorry dude but this...open limping here no good and flatting when flopping gin is not good either
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08-24-2009 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Foks
Raise or fold PF, usually fold but I'd probably raise it up from a later position like you're in here and relatively deep. If I limped I wouldn't be calling a raise OOP w/ a likely dominated hand, the fact we're sooted is inconsequential.

Flop we have 2 overcards + FD = **** ton of equity, you want to get your stack in the middle, so raise. Your raise is both for value and to force out other made hands that might have equity against you in a 4-way pot = your chances of winning at showdown go up if you can make some of them fold. And because our equity is usually thin at like 55% (of course at worst 35% if up against a set), we don't midn if all of them fold and we take it down uncontested either.
dingdingding

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08-24-2009 , 06:25 PM
i dont think the flop call is that bad this deep
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08-24-2009 , 06:48 PM
If you play this hand raise pre, othewise fold. Tons of outs on the flop, raise there...even though it's early on this is a perfect time to get chips in and possibly double up! Play the turn strong as well, since you probably have him crushed and also have a pretty fatty draw...With all that taken into account, the hand should be over, or you should be all in before the river even comes
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