At 50 people we got moved (40 pay). I got moved with ~10 bigs and have shoved one hand and got all folds, then shoved over a limper another hand and got all folds, then the hand after i shoved over a raiser and my KK beat his 1010 and all of a sudden I'm up to ~108k.

Blinds 1500/3000/500.

This is the hand directly after my double up. Guy in earlyish position (I wanna say UTG+2) limps with around the same stack as me. So far, I saw him call a raise out of the blinds with A4s and check it down on a 45Kxx board and win. He's probably ~55ish and has one of those old guy card protectors that almost covers up his cards completely. I look at QJhh in the hijack and make it 10k, folds to him, he calls.

Flop Qc 10h 2s

he donks 24k, I call.

Turn Kh, he checks. I?

bet 1/5-1/3 pot

SPR on turn is ~1, i'd check, not in love with putting 50% of the stack in and then having to call off vs old passive nit.
we have to potcontrol somewhere here, when all the money goes in we will not be happy with 2p3k vs this villain. so once he bombs flop with these stacks turn seems like a mandatory check to me.
or is turn a bluff to get AQ to fold?

easy shove here, the equity you have when he calls and the odds that he fold which I feel is a decent amount of the time makes this the right play. Shove and if he calls you got a lot of outs.

i should prob add im a kid in a flyers jersey in a mostly sabres territory location. Also both times i shoved, i shoved in my vitamin water and claimed it was worth $2 as well as the $2 poker card, so I'm pretty much a clown.

he does never have AQ when he limp/calls pre. His range contains probably pockets and connectors. If we bet small we might get called by worse hands and if we have enough equity to shove it is better to induce than to fold weaker part of his range

you must not play with old guys at TS. AQ is definitely in an old guy limpers range

old guys limp AQ there

OP should describe villain better (tell something about his perceived range @limping and leading the flop)

Seems a great spot to check back. We have position, showdown, and a big draw. Why reopen the betting when we never get him to fold a better hand.

I know we have equity but we are almost always behind his get it in range so I think a shove is kind of pointless.

Check back and see river in position

As ever, put far more concisely and eloquently than I ever could. I suppose 35k+ posts give you the practise

But defo this +1.

More importantly though, what are we doing on lots of rivers? What if river is a blank and oppo ships???

Fckn co*k s*ckers..... "+1" "+2" "+3"

Joe, why have you created this thread?
You played w/ that guy and you know better whether it`s better to bet, shove or check behind.

Agree w/ Olorion here.

+1 to check back

+2 and +3 also

Hes not folding a single hand that beats you and I can't think of any you beat right now so drawing would suck. Take the free card and get the value on the river with fold still being an option.

Chances of guy folding pre are slim and I don't love bloating this when relatively shallow, precisely becausethis kinda guy loves donking pot and we can only peel/shove for pure value and nothing else

Can someone get this guy a battery to lick before he goes out and murders a bunch of kids in the back of his van?

Do you think you`re right here?

Shut the gob...

+1 +2 +3 +4 +5

Are you allowed outside without a minder and a soft helmet on?

well, i moved UTG+1 10 handed. I'm now in what I believe is the hijack, so I had 6 hands on the guy before this and I gave you the one hand he played as a read. I can't really do much more than that, and all I have to go with are general old guy stereotypes.
+1 to all the above, chillax.

Anything but check back seems bad joey

I am fine with pre...def raise to get HU here in position and I love using a hand as versatile as QJ sooted to do it

If u really think his donking range here is top+ then just fold the flop.

How is the turn a question? He gave up the initiative so he's not in love with the turn. We turn equity vs everything and it would be for all his stack near the bubble. Fist pump shove.

Skanky...I like the second part of your post with regards to using some bubble pressure but again only Joe can fully estimate his FE on the turn. I do think that given his description of himself and his image that the villan can easily check the turn to give us room to spaz out with a big hand.

To the first part...I don't like folding flop here because we have so much backdoor equity and with position we can exert turn pressure if he does check to us...seems ass backward but if we had not picked up the huge draw I am not sure if I would hate betting the turn...have not looked close at stacks but would we have room to bet fold turn?

Start the hand 33 deep. Once we call the flop the pot is 24bb and we have 22bb left

aye...all the more reason to check turn now...agree flop creates a sticky SPR...thoughts on the fact that with Joe's image any semi competent player would check a big hand to him with that SPR since he will still have no problem getting his stack in on the river if the turn is checked back?