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11-09-2013 , 07:34 PM

sohoskiracer

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So I'm relatively new to the table, only have 100 hands on villain but they're solid, he's a SN and his results are all 99%+ on OPR for years at HSMTTs.

My read is based on the fact that imo against a random or new player, even a TAG with meh results like me, most regs should/would fold or shove most of their range on the turn (in order to get it in against draws and b/c theres not quite enough to fold river frequently, unless you know that only better bets at you, or you have the nuts...which given the board I never think he has a set)

EDIT: Note that after turn villain has 20k behind (I actually hate that I potted river, shouldve bet 30k or so)

Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (900/1,800 blinds, 225 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20606991

Hero (BB): 80,616 (44.8 bb)
UTG+2: 24,823 (13.8 bb)
MP1: 73,757 (41 bb)
MP2: 43,812 (24.3 bb)
MP3: 43,707 (24.3 bb)
CO: 55,570 (30.9 bb)
BTN: 10,614 (5.9 bb)
SB: 79,242 (44 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6

2 folds, MP2 raises to 3,654, 3 folds, SB calls 2,754, Hero calls 1,854

Flop: (12,762) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 5,630, MP2 calls 5,630, SB folds

Turn: (24,022) T

(2 players)
Hero bets 13,250, MP2 calls 13,250

River: (50,522) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets 50,400, MP2 folds

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11-09-2013 , 07:54 PM

cicakman

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Fold pre, c/s flop

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11-09-2013 , 10:16 PM

OMGClayDol

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fold pre especially with these stack sizes, unless maybe sb is mega whale
many options postflop

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11-09-2013 , 10:21 PM

sohoskiracer

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Sb is a bit of a whale, i never call if he doesnt, but I've taken to playing pots with large odds pf, this definitely isnt indicative of my usual calling range there but I think the hand plays well post.

EDIT: ALso just saw my post, I clicked hide results but clearly I should have deleted that line and now cant...

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11-09-2013 , 10:49 PM

OMGClayDol

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define 'plays well post'
so often you will have mid or bottom pair
or a marginal/weak draw like this (or worse like just a gutshot) and play guessing games

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11-09-2013 , 11:02 PM

sohoskiracer

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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol

define 'plays well post'
so often you will have mid or bottom pair
or a marginal/weak draw like this (or worse like just a gutshot) and play guessing games

True, but 3w i should be able to extract value or bluff at low boards I partially hit and put alot of pressure on IR (HU its way too thin, 3w leverages my stack to give me more FE sometimes). Also when it hits playing it somewhat soft should be able to extract alot of value too. Plus we're playing relatively deep.

EDIT: Its 4.5:1 pf and even the shorter reg has another 23x my call, i remember calculating it out and figuring its thin but good, although definitely thought 5:1 in game

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11-10-2013 , 03:33 AM

betgo

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I know you are getting pot odds, but folding pre is still better. Hand is junk and you are OOP.

I would probably c/r flop and push turn. Think this is better than leading even though he will check back this flop fairly often.

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11-10-2013 , 12:01 PM

sohoskiracer

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Originally Posted by betgo

Hmm interesting, 1/40th on mine and sb stack w/67 looks like a huge implied odds spot. I don't have much of a CR as second last to act multiway, unless you're really also C/ring the nuts there often (and other guy thinks that). Reason I'm partial to double lead here is it may rep a stronger hand w/less bluff combos to him given my sizing.

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