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02-22-2012 , 04:31 PM
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Converter did not count ante 150

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600.00/t1200.00 Blinds - 9 players
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Hero (SB): t64599.00 53.83 BBs
BB: t62497.00 52.08 BBs
UTG: t17807.00 14.84 BBs
UTG+1: t39675.00 33.06 BBs
UTG+2: t20648.00 17.21 BBs
MP1: t40999.00 34.17 BBs
MP2: t14483.00 12.07 BBs
CO: t32104.00 26.75 BBs
BTN: t12725.00 10.60 BBs

Pre Flop: (t1800) Hero is SB with xx
7 folds, Hero raises to t2800, BB calls t1600

Flop: (t5600) 9 4 Q (2 players)
Hero bets t3700.00, BB calls t3700

Turn: (t13000) T (2 players)
Hero bets t8200.00, BB calls t8200

River: (t29400) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t14200.00, BB raises to t28400, Hero - ?

What is the worst hand you shove here?
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02-22-2012 , 05:01 PM
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Readless any flush that has the Ace or King of clubs.


If you shove jack high flushes you might get a call from worse once in a while but without the nuts I would just call and possibly save 18K chips if I'm beat. He's repping the flush pretty hard I think.

Reads would obv help.
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02-22-2012 , 05:09 PM
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DrCocks, ty for the answer.
I think the same.
Villain's raise reps only flush. He left in his stack less than amount of his raise.
Next question: I shove. What is his minimal hand to call?
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02-22-2012 , 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoManowar
Next question: I shove. What is his minimal hand to call?
AcXc or two jokers
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02-22-2012 , 05:33 PM
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I want to get more opinions. Then I will publish hands and my thouts.
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02-22-2012 , 05:42 PM
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I defo don't shove on the river w. JcXc on my hand, as I don't think he's ever calling with a lower flush. (So the worst I'm shoving with is KcXc.)

When you shove the river the least I think he's calling with a K high flush.
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02-22-2012 , 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stuie93
I defo don't shove on the river w. JcXc on my hand, as I don't think he's ever calling with a lower flush. (So the worst I'm shoving with is KcXc.)

When you shove the river the least I think he's calling with a K high flush.
The point is: his 2x raise river, leaving in stack less than amount of raise, is flush only. And he will call with any flush. But - would it be good call if his flush is not nuts one?
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02-22-2012 , 06:26 PM
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answer is villain dependant. obv shoving river w/ lower then KcXc would be a spewish move ... however for villain to call it off OTR , if he's good he will call smthg like JcXc+ but some villain's will call here basically any flush. Gotta know first if particular villain is good enough to lay down flush ? or is he stuck w/ whatever flush he has and he will never let go of it. (obviously if you had a flush here)

Villain gets ridicolous odds to call it off... so I think im jamming probably AcXc here only ... he just seems so pot commited and doubt he is ever folding anything. So jamming river w/o AcXc is spewish I think
Last edited by kmatser; 02-22-2012 at 06:29 PM. Reason: pot odds calculation
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02-22-2012 , 06:29 PM
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kmatser, villaim is unknown. 17/13 for 40 hands, nothing special
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02-23-2012 , 04:47 AM
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Villain had KcJc and I had Ac2c. Seems to be a cooler. But then I made very unexpected conclusion: BB had to fold after my shove, because I shove only nuts flush here. Qc and Tc is on the board, so if I don't have nuts flush, my strongest hand is 9-high flush, but I never shove this hand here.
Last edited by LeoManowar; 02-23-2012 at 05:08 AM.
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02-23-2012 , 01:01 PM
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and your min raising with a 9 high flush or what?...shove its the only play really given the stacks
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