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Big50, ITM, A3o OTB w/ 20x Big50, ITM, A3o OTB w/ 20x

02-08-2012 , 06:53 PM
SB is a very winning reg at $33 abi (around $400K in winnings and a ROI of like 40% over a huuuuge sample).
BB is a loser at $2 - running 50/25 over 12 hands.

No reads obv, since I've been at the table 12 hands.



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11823462

UTG+2: 25,792 (21.5 bb)
MP1: 44,811 (37.3 bb)
MP2: 23,999 (20 bb)
MP3: 31,296 (26.1 bb)
CO: 13,748 (11.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): 24,379 (20.3 bb)
SB: 25,711 (21.4 bb)
BB: 41,056 (34.2 bb)
UTG+1: 23,667 (19.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 3
6 folds Hero ?


SB is a good reg with a perfect reshoving stack and BB is a loose-passiv bad player that will defend extremely wide, which makes opening small pretty gross. But if this is your line, do you fold to a SB shove?

Openshoving 20x is a bit excessive.

Openfolding an A on the BTN at these blind lvls seems pretty weak too.
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02-08-2012 , 07:27 PM
Open shoving is +EV so I prefer it to folding.
But folding does seem > raising if you think you aren't getting through very often
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02-09-2012 , 01:32 AM
just r/f and dont feel that bad about it.
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02-09-2012 , 10:59 AM
Ok. How do we play this then?

Hero: raises 1200 to 2525
SB: calls 1800
BB: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [6s 3d 8c]
SB: checks
BB: checks
Hero: ?

Didn't expect to get flatted by the SB almost ever, but did expect to get flatted really wide by BB.
How do we play this? b/f, b/c or check back?
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02-09-2012 , 11:05 AM
Postflop check behind 3 way.

Problem with shoving pre is that decent villian will correctly discount top end of your range and look you up light.

Still prob marginally +ev tho so unless your looking to reduce variance shove > r/f > fold.
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02-09-2012 , 11:28 AM
Check and give up, we're too shallow to be playing postflop 3way with no equity.
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02-09-2012 , 07:32 PM
r/f pre
check back flop and be prepared to call at least one street vs sb and fold to any action from BB.
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02-09-2012 , 10:43 PM
Think r/f is pretty standard
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02-09-2012 , 10:44 PM
Oh and check behind on the flop when sb and bb call
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