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07-14-2009 , 12:15 PM
Hi again!

Would you push in this spot ? What about ATC instead of J7 ? Would you wait for much better spots with a big stack ?

Reads: villain 22/10, hero image solid so far

SNGWiz says ok to push up to 35% villain calling range which I am pretty sure is more than villain will be calling

Considering I play 6.50s I prefer to fold in spots like this however I am thinking it is becoming a huge leak in my game. Opinions ?

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t25 - 5 players
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BTN: t2680 M = 6.31
Hero (SB): t4430 M = 10.42
BB: t1685 M = 3.96
UTG: t2465 M = 5.80
CO: t2240 M = 5.27

Pre Flop: (t425) Hero is SB with 7 J
3 folds Hero thinks about shoving
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07-14-2009 , 12:23 PM
If you've got a solid image shove away. I'd probably shove ATC in this spot. Blinds are passed the wait for a better spot stage IMO.
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07-14-2009 , 12:26 PM
The problem is your stack 425 don't gonna change your life but loosing 2k will. If you got a stack beetween 1-2k these 425 gonna help you a lot more.

With this stack i prefer preserving my image and steal some higher blinds. But the play is ev for sure.
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07-14-2009 , 02:00 PM
I wouldn't push here you can go from chipleader to shortstack with that hand. It's better to steal on the button(next hand) or wait until the blinds at higher
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07-14-2009 , 02:04 PM
dont think about it, shove it against a random everytime until he calls you light.
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07-14-2009 , 02:08 PM
Shove it then shove button with atc if unopened. The stacks are perfect for a Gozilla v Japan approach
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07-14-2009 , 02:59 PM
Thanks for the answers! Glad to see I am not the only one hesitant to shove, although it is definitely +EV and most of you would shove ATC

Now a short followup from same game if you don't mind:

CO: t3980 M = 9.95
Hero (BTN): t4543 M = 11.36
SB: t3487 M = 8.72
BB: t1490 M = 3.73

Pre Flop: (t400) Hero is BTN with T T
1 fold, Hero : a) folds b) shoves c) raises to 500 in order to play the pot with shortie and fold to a shove from the other big stack

Thoughts ? Definitely a shove is +EV all the way but is a 2.5 raise better ?
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