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Big 5.50 early stage AJo CO vs BB Big 5.50 early stage AJo CO vs BB

10-18-2014 , 09:48 AM
Villain 16/3 over 30 hands. Not much info.

    Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31822871

    MP2: 2,426 (48.5 bb)
    MP3: 2,875 (57.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): 5,235 (104.7 bb)
    BTN: 3,461 (69.2 bb)
    SB: 3,040 (60.8 bb)
    BB: 3,048 (61 bb)
    UTG+1: 4,113 (82.3 bb)
    UTG+2: 4,629 (92.6 bb)
    MP1: 2,303 (46.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
    5 folds, Hero raises to 100, 2 folds, BB calls 50

    Flop: (225) 7 A 6 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 150, BB raises to 412, Hero calls 262

    Turn: (1,049) T (2 players)
    BB bets 524, Hero calls 524

    River: (2,097) 5 (2 players)
    BB bets 1,048, Hero calls 1,048

    Spoiler:
    Results: 4,193 pot
    Final Board: 7 A 6 T 5
    Hero mucked A J and lost (-2,084 net)
    BB showed 5 T and won 4,193 (2,109 net)



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    Would you call 3 streets on that board? Pretty wet ****.
    Overplayed the top pair?
    Basically what I tought OTF was that he wouldn't raise it if he
    had flopped a flush. I was putting him on a draw or Ax.

    What do you think?

    Thanks for your insight beforehand.

    Cheers
    Big 5.50 early stage AJo CO vs BB Quote
    10-18-2014 , 10:42 AM
    Don't show results dude . When reraised on flop I would seriously consider folding I don't hate calling just in case he's a fish with Kd in his hand or smaller A. but most people wouldn't reraise a single diamond here they would just call.when he bets pretty small on turn I don't hate calling again however when he bets half pot on river am done snap fold he is not gonna bluff 3 streets with air or play smaller A like this .he would also probably bet big with bluff knowing you have already called 2streets you wouldnt fold to small bet

    Last edited by Antricko123; 10-18-2014 at 11:03 AM.
    Big 5.50 early stage AJo CO vs BB Quote
    10-18-2014 , 10:52 AM
    I am fairly confident Vanderbilt won't lose this week.
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    10-18-2014 , 11:00 AM
    i would call the flop raise and probably the turn bet, but OTR we only have a bluff catcher and unless you have strong reads you should fold!
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    10-18-2014 , 11:17 AM
    There are big pot hands and small pot hands. Do you want to play a big pot with a bluff catcher versus a seemingly tight passive player? I don't necessarily object to calling otf because as you said he might slow play if he'd flopped a flush and he might slow down if he didn't - plus if we improve to two pair or trips that is a more able bluff catcher than Tpgk... but as played I don't want to "draw" to the river for a more able bluff catcher so I'd likely fold ott.
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    10-19-2014 , 12:57 AM
    The hand played like he hit a small flush. I can't see you putting him on an Ace or draw because he would have called on the flop IMO.
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    10-19-2014 , 06:51 AM
    Thanks guys for your insight.

    I really should consider to not post results too soon next time, this might
    even improve the discussion.

    After reconsidering the hand I see how I'm beat pretty often OTR after facing
    the third barrel vs a tight passive player. I mean, this guy obviously is afraid of putting chips in the pot, but not in this spot AND he leads vs me, which is also a big sign of strength.
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    10-19-2014 , 01:22 PM
    Quote:
    I really should consider to not post results too soon next time, this might
    even improve the discussion.
    This.

    Fold turn. Nothing good can really happen from that point on. We're basically only calling in the hopes that he'll shut down otr, which isn't an ideal spot to be putting in 10x more. Even if we hit an A or an offsuite J, we won't be that happy to call another barrel.

    Think about how the hand is gonna play out be4 investing more $. A lot of lowstakes players make the mistake of just calling w/out considering future streets and what might happen in the hand further down the line. This is an example of a hand where it might seem that we have a fairly strong hand BB vs CO on this board, but when you think about what might happen otr you'll realize that it's a pretty bad spot to be putting in more chips. We've already shown a decent amount of strength by opening and bet/calling this flop and we have a hand that can't really improve against the range that he's repping, so there really isn't a lot of upsides to continuing. I think the flop call is okay tho. We can still improve against his really strong hands and he might be taking a cheap stab at winning the pot on a hit-or-miss board. But once we don't improve ott and he fires 1/2 pot again, it's just not a good situation for us.

    I think the river call is pretty bad. What hands can he really expect us to fold on such a blank river that wouldn't fold ott? I guess we could have something like KKd or QQd, but the rest we're prolly gonna call again if we decide to call ott, so it's a really weird spot for him to be bluffing.
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