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09-17-2014 , 09:31 AM
PokerStars - $5+$0.50|20/40 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 2,310 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (UTG+1): 2,840
MP: 8,938 (VPIP: 27.45, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 51)
CO: 5,920 (VPIP: 11.21, PFR: 9.01, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 116)
BTN: 2,907 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 4,660 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 1,300 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB 20, BB posts BB 40

Pre Flop: (pot: 60) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to 120, MP calls 120, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (300, 2 players) 5 3 7
Hero bets 200, MP calls 200

Turn: (700, 2 players) 4
Hero
so have just joined the table so not sure on anything about the villain, especially how he has 8k chips already.
not sure what to do on this turn as i dont have a heart and the board is not in my favour much anymore.
any ideas?
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09-17-2014 , 10:07 AM
I'd prolly b/f turn c/f river I mean there's still a little value from xh7 mb like ah4/5 or w/e, 78, 88+ with a heart ott but when if he calls and bets the river, idtt some unknown is gonna be turning those hands into a bluff as often as their gonna let out a huge sigh of relief that they got to showdown
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09-17-2014 , 10:39 AM
high variance play: check/raise turn, if he checks behind donk river

low variance play: check/fold
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09-17-2014 , 11:19 AM
+1 crunk

c/r turn would be horrible imo, and c/f is too nitty.
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09-17-2014 , 01:01 PM
b/f turn
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09-17-2014 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CrunkMonkey
I'd prolly b/f turn c/f river I mean there's still a little value from xh7 mb like ah4/5 or w/e, 78, 88+ with a heart ott but when if he calls and bets the river, idtt some unknown is gonna be turning those hands into a bluff as often as their gonna let out a huge sigh of relief that they got to showdown
^this. For turn sizing i'd make it ~450.
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09-17-2014 , 02:40 PM
I know it's a 5$ so people aren't good thinkers but basically when you check the river you never have 6x or a flush so he can profitably bet almost all of his range that is not at least (top) 2 pairs or set to turn it into a bluff because you never have a hand to call with.
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09-17-2014 , 08:40 PM
ppl are bad, bet flop bigger and b/f turn big
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09-18-2014 , 12:07 AM
I like b/f turn as well.
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09-18-2014 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Brynden
high variance play: check/raise turn, if he checks behind donk river
Why? What does this achieve? Are we playing the hand as a bluff now?

I like B/F turn and more often than not check decide river. We can get value from 7x (that isn't two pair), any other over pair he might have, and any naked flush draw.
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09-18-2014 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by I'mAFrenchDonkey
I know it's a 5$ so people aren't good thinkers but basically when you check the river you never have 6x or a flush so he can profitably bet almost all of his range that is not at least (top) 2 pairs or set to turn it into a bluff because you never have a hand to call with.
That's true, but using that logic (and you see this quite a bit in micro tourneys too IMO) surely some of the time you're going to get the opposite end of that spectrum where someone goes "zomg he's totes slowplaying and checking the river as a trap! I check back my set/two-pair/quads/straight flush "
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09-18-2014 , 01:41 PM
c/r is very very bad.

I don't know why people didn't consider c/c at all here.
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09-18-2014 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by suri0
c/r is very very bad.

I don't know why people didn't consider c/c at all here.
It's a consideration, but I think betting gets more of what we want done here. I think checking allows too many random things to check behind and get there otr, and by betting we can control the size of the pot still.

c/c I think just leads into much stickier situations where we'll be pretty much guessing for the rest of the hand.
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