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04-24-2014 , 05:53 PM
Is at a valuebet?
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04-24-2014 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ibimon
Equity Win Tie

MP2 48.15% 44.44% 3.70% AdAh, AdAc, AhAc, KdKs, KdKc, KsKc, JdJc, KsQs, AdTd, AhTh, AcTc, AdQs, AhQs, AcQs, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AhTs, AhTc, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, KdQs, KsQd, KcQs, QsJd, QsJc

Hero 51.85% 48.15% 3.70% QhJh

we have to call imo
Ur range is dumb this isn't close because he doesn't take this line with these hands.. If he's even remotely competent QJ is the bottom of his value range and he has almost no bluffs.. You want to include a ton of straights like the guy is braindead
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04-26-2014 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FatsoFat6969
Ur range is dumb this isn't close because he doesn't take this line with these hands.. If he's even remotely competent QJ is the bottom of his value range and he has almost no bluffs.. You want to include a ton of straights like the guy is braindead
12 hands of straights/16 hands other.

And yes you have to consider him brain-dead until he proves otherwise.

Also not sure what he expects us to call with after we double barrelled on paired board OTT and into 3 OTF.
And if he thinks we now have T9 in our range, then he trully is braindead if he was chasing a straight with AA, or didn't fire a clip OTF with 2pair KQ/QJ/KJ into 3 OTF.
Forgot to add TT into there, which now IMO makes more sense the way he played it.
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04-26-2014 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sokz
@AkupaA, I tried to hide the hand as good as possible but if you try even the slightest bit you'll find out. Ill ask a mod to furter cover it up since i cant change OP myself anymore
when you post the hand in the hand history converter just delete everything after 'villain shows _____' and it will remove it from the hand history AND the replayer

for example you should make it say:

hero shows [QhJh]
MP shows

instead of

hero shows [QhJh]
MP shows [AhQs]

and then click convert hand
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04-26-2014 , 03:53 PM
I can only see a couple holdings checking flop and calling instead of leading out themselves. QT, JT, AQ and AJ. Only QT and AQ x/c the turn bet and only AQ leads out the river. I think its proper to ignore all possible V bluff combinations because HERO reps a boat a lot of the time and straights a small amount of the time. No ones bluffing into that range unless they're a sicko thinking randoms in midstake tourneys will fold small boats

I think bet sizing across the board is absolutely perfect and this was just a suckout
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04-26-2014 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sokz
I feel like QJ = KQ basically since villain would lead KQ
+1
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04-26-2014 , 08:32 PM
so did you fold?
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04-27-2014 , 09:00 AM
As many ppl already said, it has to be a fold. He should have AQ,AA close to 100% of the time.
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04-27-2014 , 06:47 PM
I did call after timebanking for ages. Villain was as in (1) at the time, somewhat dolty-looking and thought there's to many QT / KT or 9Ts (?) in his range for me to fold. :P

If i knew he somewhat had a clue i would've sighfolded i guess.
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04-28-2014 , 01:12 PM
i know we're talking about the river in this thread, but does anyone like a 3b pre? stacks seem set up well for it, we have position, and in 3,4,5 way pots we decrease our equity significantly..
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04-28-2014 , 09:28 PM
biiger sizing then u have an easy odds call river, imo only hand that beats u is AQ so if he has it oh well ul
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04-29-2014 , 11:09 AM
I don't think we can fold KQ because it's the absolute top of our range and due to him having more JJ/QJ combos and us tying vs KQ instead of losing against it. QJ is an annoying fold though.
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