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Bad time for check raise? , after turn could i know i was beat? Bad time for check raise? , after turn could i know i was beat?

06-28-2008 , 05:03 AM
Full Tilt Poker Game #7001637006: $8 + $0.80 Tournament (53206485), Table 10 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:55:26 ET - 2008/06/28
Seat 1: acennine (16,601)
Seat 2: sad0127 (14,560)
Seat 4: octavious1 (12,187)
Seat 5: ILL32 (9,100)
Seat 6: 0WEN47 (15,966)
Seat 7: mousethatroared (8,981)
Seat 9: lbilldt (8,869)
acennine antes 25
sad0127 antes 25
octavious1 antes 25
ILL32 antes 25
0WEN47 antes 25
mousethatroared antes 25
lbilldt antes 25
lbilldt posts the small blind of 150
acennine posts the big blind of 300
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lbilldt [Qs Ac]
sad0127 calls 300
octavious1 folds
ILL32 has 15 seconds left to act
ILL32 raises to 900
0WEN47 folds
mousethatroared folds
lbilldt calls 750
acennine calls 600
sad0127 calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3c 5h]
lbilldt has 15 seconds left to act
lbilldt checks
acennine checks
sad0127 has 15 seconds left to act
sad0127 checks
ILL32 checks
*** TURN *** [Qd 3c 5h] [6d]
lbilldt bets 3,000
acennine raises to 6,000
sad0127 folds
ILL32 has 15 seconds left to act
ILL32 has requested TIME
ILL32 folds
lbilldt raises to 7,944, and is all in
acennine calls 1,944
lbilldt shows [Qs Ac]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 3c 5h 6d] [Ah]
lbilldt shows two pair, Aces and Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19,663 | Rake 0
Board: [Qd 3c 5h 6d Ah]
Bad time for check raise? , after turn could i know i was beat? Quote
06-28-2008 , 05:07 AM
WHOOPS


Full Tilt Poker $8 + $0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 7 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

acennine (BB): t16601
sad0127 (UTG): t14560
octavious1 (UTG+1): t12187
ILL32 (MP): t9100
0WEN47 (CO): t15966
mousethatroared (BTN): t8981
Hero (SB): t8869

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with Q A
sad0127 calls t300, 1 fold, ILL32 raises to t900, 2 folds, Hero calls t750, acennine calls t600, sad0127 calls t600

Flop: (t3775) Q 3 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, acennine checks, sad0127 checks, ILL32 checks

Turn: (t3775) 6 (4 players)
Hero bets t3000, acennine raises to t6000, sad0127 folds, ILL32 folds, Hero raises to t7944 all in, acennine calls t1944

River: (t19663) A (1 players - 1 is all in)
Bad time for check raise? , after turn could i know i was beat? Quote
06-28-2008 , 06:22 AM
Being OOP, against a MP-raiser and with your stacksize I probably couldn't help threebetting the guy to something like 2300 and stick it in on a lot of flops. As played I lead the flop, because the preflopraiser will check a lot of hands through and you are going to put it allin no mather wat. Besides a lead might actually seem weaker than a checkraise. As played on the flop, turn is fine, although I prefer a somewhat smaller betsize.
Bad time for check raise? , after turn could i know i was beat? Quote
06-28-2008 , 06:42 AM
I like your flat call preflop, 3-betting is not great because if he 4-bets we can't really fold and we're going to be in bad shape against his 4-bet range so lets not price ourselves into a bad situation.

I like your check on the flop too. People will usually be c-betting this flop, even 3-handed because the texture is just really unlikely to have hit anyone. Unfortunately he checks behind. If he bet we could just flat or c/r, but I like a flat because a cheap turn card is not likely to hurt us (the only card we don't want to see on the turn is a K).

Your lead on the turn is good, we need to get vale from our hand. When he minraises yeah we're probably screwed but we're now pot committed. Judging by the fact you posted this I assume he had qq or aa?
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06-28-2008 , 03:57 PM
Nope, my check raise got f'd double time. the guy was holding 66 and caught trips on the turn. But I think i'm extracting more chips from my opponents here if they have any Q or mid. pocket pairs. So I don't think I should be results oriented here?
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06-28-2008 , 04:51 PM
played perfectly fine imo
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