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Was this a bad call or a bad beat? QQ vs openshove Was this a bad call or a bad beat? QQ vs openshove

02-15-2009 , 03:21 AM
80-man $20 tournament.. I never really know what to do when people make incredibly donk plays and I look down at a decent hand. What does a donk openshove with in a $20 tourney? I was thinking maybe TT+, AJs+, AQo+ ? Literally first hand so zero reads. Be honest - in the same spot what do you do and why? Can anyone find a fold? Just looking back on it, it seems kind of stupid to go broke when I have $0 invested into the pot and the blinds are incredibly low.
Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t1500 M = 50
Hero (SB): t1500 M = 50
BB: t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1500 M = 50
MP2: t1500 M = 50
CO: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with Q Q
3 folds, MP1 calls t20, 2 folds, BTN raises to t1500 all in, Hero calls t1490 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t3040) 5 8 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t3040) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t3040) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t3040
BTN shows Kc Kd (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero shows Qc Qd (a pair of Queens)
BTN wins t3040
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02-15-2009 , 03:43 AM
NH, villains show up with larger aces and 77+ a lot here.
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02-15-2009 , 05:02 AM
Snap call against an open shove.
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02-15-2009 , 05:04 AM
Dont think it was a bad call, just bad beat.

Nh and Unlucky about the river

(woohoo 1st post)
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02-15-2009 , 05:11 AM
almost never folding
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02-15-2009 , 05:38 AM
I call too. Open shove is weird, but i see it with small pairs and Ax a lot. Unlucky.
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02-15-2009 , 05:42 AM
I would fold here.
I dont think he is doing this with lower pair than yours the best you are up agsint is probably ace king, except maybe jacks(real stretch)
you have invested 20 dollars to have a coinflip at best, you double up to 3k if you win but doubling up at this stage doesnt really mean you are in an awesome position to win tourny, IMO tourneys are won nearer the end of the tournaments let this one go.
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02-15-2009 , 05:57 AM
In lower buy in tournaments, I have seen a lot of people shoving the very hand with AA/KK hoping to get called by someone who thinks they are FOS. It works, apparently.
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02-15-2009 , 06:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishmeout
In lower buy in tournaments, I have seen a lot of people shoving the very hand with AA/KK hoping to get called by someone who thinks they are FOS. It works, apparently.

Yeah sometimes. The other 95% of the time they are FOS.
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