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09-20-2010 , 10:01 PM
162 paid 169 players left 26$ fo on ftp. Been at the table for 20 hands and villain is running 25/18 and has shoved i think about 5 hands so far. Vs a nit on the bubble i think this is a fold but can i justify a call here?
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MP2: t33109 M = 12.61
CO: t35288 M = 13.44
BTN: t43784 M = 16.68
SB: t24423 M = 9.30
BB: t39641 M = 15.10
UTG: t19404 M = 7.39
UTG+1: t17174 M = 6.54
UTG+2: t13928 M = 5.31
Hero (MP1): t11695 M = 4.46

Pre Flop: (t2625) Hero is MP1 with Q A
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t13803 all in
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09-20-2010 , 10:22 PM
Im getting it in.
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09-20-2010 , 11:57 PM
Against this villain with your stack, this is an easy shove imo.
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09-21-2010 , 04:34 AM
definitely fold you need a sizable edge to be calling this and it's ~0EV -> -EV

calling AK is probably a mistake

take comfort in the fact villain is never ever light and could be folding up to and including AJ and 77
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09-21-2010 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by skater3598
definitely fold you need a sizable edge to be calling this and it's ~0EV -> -EV

calling AK is probably a mistake

take comfort in the fact villain is never ever light and could be folding up to and including AJ and 77
lol icmaments
if hes abusing the bubble, get it innnnnnnnnnnn
i couldnt care less about a mini cash, gets some chips imo!
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09-21-2010 , 04:46 AM
and you have 11bbs. omg lol get it in
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09-21-2010 , 05:14 AM
you could of course just say omg 11 bbs he's probably light sometimes lol i don't care about icm or even fully understand what it implies and do w/e, but this is definitely a fold vs a nit as described in OP
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09-21-2010 , 12:20 PM
villain wasn't described as a nit was 25/18 and had shoved 5 hands of 20
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09-21-2010 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trymyk
villain wasn't described as a nit was 25/18 and had shoved 5 hands of 20
yeah and even if villian was nitty this is still prob a shove
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09-21-2010 , 01:05 PM
i think its close, flip a coin
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09-21-2010 , 02:36 PM
calling this
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09-21-2010 , 02:40 PM
GEt it in. Look your stack and the reads...
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09-21-2010 , 02:45 PM
Loose villain + possible bubble abuse + 11BBs + AQ = Fold? I don't think so
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09-21-2010 , 03:35 PM
never folding here...closer to fist pumping
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09-21-2010 , 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skater3598
calling AK is probably a mistake
lol no.

call with AQ.

Last edited by ThePershore; 09-21-2010 at 03:49 PM. Reason: i don't think its a huge fist pump or anything but am never folding
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09-21-2010 , 07:14 PM
instashove
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09-21-2010 , 07:18 PM
do it
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09-21-2010 , 07:53 PM
call with your read, fold vs a nit. gotta take these opportunities with your stack. winning here puts you in a pretty good situation. actually i could see a case for folding if it were the exact bubble, but as is we still might not cash if we fold here, 7 people in this field size might take a while to bust, and also his range will be a little tighter on the exact bubble.
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09-21-2010 , 10:22 PM
Super turbo call... and happily.
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09-22-2010 , 12:14 AM
you money 80-90% of the time if you fold, there are 5 people left to act, villain has been described as a nit

you need 46% to break even and we only have at max a 5% edge here vs his range

you're all wrong it's an easy fold

can't believe you guys are actually just saying "fist pump this" and ****, and think busting 45+% of the time on the bubble is fine
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09-22-2010 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skater3598
you money 80-90% of the time if you fold, there are 5 people left to act, villain has been described as a nit

you need 46% to break even and we only have at max a 5% edge here vs his range

you're all wrong it's an easy fold

can't believe you guys are actually just saying "fist pump this" and ****, and think busting 45+% of the time on the bubble is fine
for the 3rd time villain was not described as a nit, OP was merely saying that vs. a nit he would probably fold but given the reads which were he was 25/18 and had shoved 5 hands in 20, so probably abusing bubble, that he felt this was a call in this situation

I agree 100% get this in there
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09-22-2010 , 12:24 AM
oh woops, yea get it in (still don't pump you fists flipping on the bubble)
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09-22-2010 , 01:10 AM
yeah never folding here
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09-22-2010 , 01:31 AM
yeah I call here too, with your reads i think your just way too ahead of villians range to nit-fold to a min cash.
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09-22-2010 , 03:09 PM
alright sweet i did shove and lost to 44 just making sure that i wasn't making a bubble mistake.
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