#Game No : 583034643
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 583034643 *****
$50/$100 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Tournament #53198053 $10 + $1 - Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: White_Dwarf ( $2,640 )
Seat 2: fcarljo ( $1,664 )
Seat 3: M1ndFreak01 ( $4,449 )
Seat 4: Duran48 ( $2,983 )
Seat 5: mcveigh1977 ( $2,775 ) >>>>>>>> V
Seat 6: Silenzi0 ( $3,157 )
Seat 7: OpaZalan ( $3,732 )
Seat 9: london_ace ( $2,700 ) >>>>>>>> hero
Seat 10: michalkil ( $3,575 )
michalkil posts small blind [$50]
White_Dwarf posts big blind [$100]
** Dealing down cards **
fcarljo folds
M1ndFreak01 folds
Duran48 folds
mcveigh1977 raises [$250]
Silenzi0 folds
OpaZalan folds
london_ace calls [$250]
michalkil folds
White_Dwarf folds
** Dealing flop ** [ A, K, 9 ]
mcveigh1977 bets [$325]
london_ace calls [$325]
** Dealing turn ** [ 5 ]
mcveigh1977 bets [$750]
london_ace ??????


hey, are we ever folding ott here readless?

with the stacks behind i just find it difficult to fold ott , the only hands that beat us is ace king , 99s , its unlikely villian has two pair type of hands here like k9s a9s (but possible) i guess.

are relative hand strength is pretty strong otf obv not the nuts we are ahead of hands like qx or mid pocket pairs, decided to call otf since if we raise the only hands that are calling are likely to be ahead.


thoughts?

what are your thoughts and plan for this hand when you decide to call pre?

that if i hit top pair i'm going all the way unless of course the board is cordinated , like for instance if most hands get there ott straights/fds , I may then fold. In this case it was a tough spot , since my hand is relatively strong.

and i know if i call ott , i have to go all the way as i will only have 1.2k left behind , likely to be committed.

I would 3bet pre.

Keep calling

Any reads. Do we are Ad?

Yah I like 3betting pre with the intention of calling a shove. You are both 27bb effective. I'm not a huge fan of calling preflop here with our stack size as I hate folding when we miss most flops.

As played I think shoving and calling down and pretty much the same as he's put in most of his stack. I just shove turn.

IMO 3betting in the intentions of shoving with the effective stacks off around 27bb is highly variance. If we do shove most of the time i dont think we will be ahead unless of course u have solid reads on V which i never did have.

i think with 27bb u dont need to panic , thats my point.

also calling pre can get u into sticky spots just like i got myself into , neither do i like 3bet folding with this stack size and if anything i'd rather have a polarized range at all times.

As for AQ i don't think 3betting with it is the nuts...especially readless

thoughts?

I feel like you are at a critical point in your development as a player. From this point and another few threads I think you are being a little too conservative on how to play your stack sizes and also in ranging opponents.

we are readless here. that doesn't mean we have to assume villain is gonna be nutted that is a major leak. sure if we had the solid read villain was a supernit i would go about playing this ahnd quite differently but we don't have that read at all.

AQo is the top of our range here and stacking off with the top of our range with 27bb is fine.

few points :

1. 3betting here is great cause AQ is so far ahead of villains range. we have position and need to be putting the pressure on. this prevents us from getting multiway and gives room for villain to make a mistake. we get folds, we get villain to call wide way behind. we can 3bet to a good size that allows villain to shove here and we can gladly call. 88+, AJs, is a decent range. AJ may be optimistic but i see tons of pocketpairs showing up in this spot. i'm also putting in hands like KQs sometimes.

2. we don't have see panicing here but we need to be taking close spots like this to win MTTs. taking this spot and winning puts us in a huge commanding position to continue to put pressure the table by stealings, 3betting and abusing the bubble situation that come up. yes there is variance involved but thats what tournaments are. this is a spot that we need to be taking sooner or later and while its not panic time its a good spot to gamble and get that big stack.

what are our options really? we've establish calling is bad, folding is also bad, so we look towards a 3bet. this is just too strong of a hand to 3bet fold imo without a solid read that villain is a super nit and i think you'd be suprised that people are willing to make moves. it comes down to given the impression through our sizing that gives villain room to hang themselves and stuff that hand cause they are never folding AJs or never fold 77 cause he's convinced you have AK.

@slingtown

I agree with your comment, thanks man.

readless this is shove , we can't fold this that's for sure.

3bet folding will be horrible as well.

+1.