These are my online tournament stats.

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I think I do some things well, but I play the game with a lot of uncertainty, because I'm not a technically strong player who knows the games finer points, and I take full blame for that for being lazy and not determined enough to improve. I think I would do a lot better if I cut down on the chip wasting plays. So I figure I'll start asking questions here for some guidance in achieving that goal.

I normally raise utg or in EP with AQo, and limp with QJs, JTs, KJs. Sometimes I limp with AQ, even AQs.

What are the best plays with these hands at a normal table (no crazy raising maniac) with short, medium and big stacks at a full table during the early, mid and late stages of a tourney?

I do believe with a micro-stack, (10 BB or less) any of these hands are shovers, and at the FT or late in the tourney short-handed, I'll open with any of these hands to steal the blinds, and because I can comfortably call a short shove with them, as well as they are decent hands to play if I'm called.

Ok, I say limp with QJs, JTs, KJs in early, as well as AQo and AJs. I don't care, I like to play those hands and see a flop with em. If not very favorable, check and muck em quick.

With AQs, I say raise, but play with caution.

You've been here for five years, I would have expected you to know there is no set formula for this sort of thing.

Your question is far too general, and is going to depend on a lot of different factors. By all means post individual HH's if you have a spot you would like to have looked at and folks will try and help you out.

In resposne to your hands you beleive are "shovers", I highly recommend reading over jcm4ccc pusbot charts, found HERE. ALso, check out some threads in the anthology of wisdom at the top of the page

With regards to your statistics, your sample size is far too small to get anything useful information from. Its good you are winning, but you need to 4x that sample to begin to learn anything from it.

Thanks for the insight. I haven't been here 5 years though - I signed up 5 years ago maybe. Many a year I'd go months without logging onto this site. I know, who's fault is that?

My general knowledge of short shoving hands came from reading that chapter in The Tournament Poker Formula, by Snyder, where he professes a very proactive and aggressive approach, essentially playing to make the final table, not really caring about making the money.

I can't get over the limping part of your game tbh.

Open limping is such a sign of a weak player imo.

This donk is profitable, even if I don't play "proper". Would you like me to play "proper" so you know just what do do? Must be an Englishman, they love everything "proper", lol, unless ur in da "pour house", than anything goes, even copping a feel of sis when she's sittin next ta yuo on tha couch. Right. Mate.

Leaving aside the UK vs America debate, if you come to this forum asking for advice and then don't listen to anyone because you're already so profitable, then the forum is better off without you. You might not like it, but general consensus around this forum is that limping is for fish.

FWIW, you would be well served to work on your understanding of the concepts of equity and ranges, because your assessment of how to play these hands is extremely basic and doesn't take into account anywhere near enough variables.

Any of these hands can be an insta-call, insta-shove or insta-fold in any situation, and as has already been stated, your post is too general for us to really respond. Try posting a specific hand so we can discuss things in more detail.

I didn't like his tone, although I have heard what he said before and it made me rethink what I'm doing. Thanks for the better response. P.S. I am in Canada.

Open limping is generally regarded as very weak by the more profitable players, although it does has it's places here and there.

Don't get snappy back when people are trying to help, even if their criticism is harsh, be a man and take it. Instead, ask why this is the case etc blah blah.

In regards to your main question, there really is no formula for this, and honestly, theres hardly any difference between opening and folding them or what not. There are far more important things you can focus on in your poker study. Try opening them up for a bit, be a bit looser in EP, if it works out then stick with it, if not, try figure out some other ways. Most of this will come from experience, and you won't really answer your question until you try it for yourself anyway.

eetee for mod!

[/QUOTE] Leaving aside the UK vs America debate, if you come to this forum asking for advice and then don't listen to anyone because you're already so profitable, then the forum is better off without you. You might not like it, but general consensus around this forum is that limping is for fish.
FWIW, you would be well served to work on your understanding of the concepts of equity and ranges, because your assessment of how to play these hands is extremely basic and doesn't take into account anywhere near enough variables.
Any of these hands can be an insta-call, insta-shove or insta-fold in any situation, and as has already been stated, your post is too general for us to really respond. Try posting a specific hand so we can discuss things in more detail. [/QUOTE]

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[/QUOTE]Open limping is generally regarded as very weak by the more profitable players, although it does has it's places here and there.

Don't get snappy back when people are trying to help, even if their criticism is harsh, be a man and take it. Instead, ask why this is the case etc blah blah.

In regards to your main question, there really is no formula for this, and honestly, theres hardly any difference between opening and folding them or what not. There are far more important things you can focus on in your poker study. Try opening them up for a bit, be a bit looser in EP, if it works out then stick with it, if not, try figure out some other ways. Most of this will come from experience, and you won't really answer your question until you try it for yourself anyway.[/QUOTE]

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I bet I can blow you all away with what I could accomplish in a month if I really applied myself, that being that I am regarded as a donk and don't know or understand some of the concepts that you guys/gals adhere to.

Personally, I think limping in small stakes tourneys early on in the tournament, or in the mid part when I have a healthy stack, is a very good way to play, because keeping the pot small in an attempt to make a big hand (and then getting it paid off vs top pair, two pair) is the way to go.

Without knowing how to calculate "M" (Dan Harringtons concept) or really understanding concepts of equity and ranges, I bet I can do (randon number) $8500 in winnings in the next month, starting with under $100 bankroll, when my total lifetime earnings are just over $20k (satellites included).

I'll do it simply by getting daily exercise, eating healthy, using my intuition and going through my old notes.

I'm taking 3-1 that I can do it, $25 bets, maximum 10 people. If I fail to make $8500 in winnings by May 25th (starts April 25, and results taken from bluff magazines poker database) I will pay out $25 to each person via stars or FT. If I have $8500 in cashes (or more), you will pay me $75.

LOL, this is very sad...

What would you recommend I do?

rly bro, a winnings bet?

i'd rather bet on you making 2k profit than u winning 8.5k

Sorry about the last post of mine, it was a bad idea. I'm just a little frustrated right now in life. Disregard the last post.

limping EP with those hands is fine

So grow a pair and get over it baby. He's right though, limping is generally a bad idea unless you're doing it for a purpose. Limping to try and pot control is dumb. I'd only limp if I were deep enough to have the odds for when I hit. Limping loses you the initiative in the hand, multiple people usually come into the pot when it's limped. So assuming you limp 78s in MP and 3 people come along to the flop and it's J83r and someone ahead of you bets. Now you have no idea where you're at in the hand and if you had instead raised (assuming stacks are ok to raise 78s) then you can define their ranges a bit more and are able to play better post.


Dude no one is doubting you have won a tournament or however many. People are saying that you have a semi-serious leak which is limping with value hands. No one cares what your results are, because there are a lot of players who have won the WSOP or gotten deep in it that are terrible players. Not saying you're terrible but your logic in here is quite flawed.

This too.

Then don't troll people here and read the stickies. Post difficult hands that come up and we'd be happy to help you with it.

Really? Nah, you're pulling my leg. I'm a donk.