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09-30-2009 , 07:14 PM

blue chip

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Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t50720 M = 10.57
MP2: t138828 M = 28.92
CO: t46626 M = 9.71
BTN: t35276 M = 7.35
SB: t28602 M = 5.96
Hero (BB): t56312 M = 11.73
UTG: t39640 M = 8.26
UTG+1: t38223 M = 7.96
UTG+2: t25678 M = 5.35

Pre Flop: (t4800) Hero is BB with A

4 folds, MP2 raises to t8000, 3 folds, Hero ???

Only read is that villain hasn't played a hand since i moved to this table - about 15 hands. What do we do here?

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09-30-2009 , 07:29 PM

Olipop

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He has a competent stack so perhaps slightly bullying. Fold or shove IMO. Lack of reads would lead to fold for me.

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09-30-2009 , 07:49 PM

blue chip

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bump

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09-30-2009 , 08:02 PM

Larude

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Originally Posted by Olipop

He has a competent stack so perhaps slightly bullying. Fold or shove IMO. Lack of reads would lead to fold for me.

Lack of read would make me definitely shove this baby. There are in fact reads which tend to point to nittiness but 15 hands is not enough to pinpoint someone. His raisingrange from the HJ with his stack should be pretty wide so a shove is definitely +EV, I would even go lighter then AQo here.

Last edited by Larude; 09-30-2009 at 08:17 PM.

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09-30-2009 , 08:14 PM

TheFoxNL

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shove

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09-30-2009 , 11:31 PM

Ch3wi3

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I like the aggression here, shove. Its a late position raise from the chipleader. You have 28BB's which is large for a 3 bet shove but if you raise to 20k you might be committed.

Go for it make the play shove, I am guessing you are ahead of his range and you have good FE

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09-30-2009 , 11:41 PM

flopp_deuces

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I am def. shipping it in here with tons of f/e.

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09-30-2009 , 11:49 PM

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Pooh-Bah

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I prefer a go and go here. Make it 2111 or something and shove the hell out of the flop.

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10-01-2009 , 12:23 AM

Willyoman

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I want to shove here, but are people wary of the 4x raise?

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10-01-2009 , 12:43 AM

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zedveron

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i'm not thrilled about getting it in here when he hasn't played a hand in 15 and he's 4xing. then again he is in the hijack. if we do get it in then agree go and go is best, 20k and shove any flop.

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10-01-2009 , 12:46 AM

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brad2002tj

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Shove pre, not close.

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10-01-2009 , 01:09 AM

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homanga

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Shove em

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10-01-2009 , 01:19 AM

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Jiggymike

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Originally Posted by brad2002tj

Shove pre, not close.

Go n go sounds nice but I usually trust Brad in spots where it comes to shoving preflop.

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10-01-2009 , 02:06 AM

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matt nover

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shove.

not enough chips to 3bet and play a pot

folding is out of the question against a single 4x raise.

4x from his position leads me to believe he is weaker rather than stronger usually.

shove

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10-02-2009 , 02:42 PM

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blue chip

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Originally Posted by Willyoman

I want to shove here, but are people wary of the 4x raise?

yes, i was very wary of the 4x. that is actually the reason i posted. I would shove a 3x or probably go and go with a 3x raise. the 4x is odd. I ended up shoving and he turned up with KK. Coolered, or is the 4x from late position a sign of serious strength?

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10-02-2009 , 03:00 PM

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areaman

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i fold and dont give too much thought....

apparently its a leak.

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10-02-2009 , 04:00 PM

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ssnyc

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Originally Posted by areaman

i fold and dont give too much thought....

apparently its a leak.

doubt acky folds here unless the hand was posted...once posted acky folds easy

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10-02-2009 , 04:02 PM

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cgidd8

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I shove and I also like the 4x...he's just putting more chips into the pot, I doubt his range is THATTTTTT much stronger.

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