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03-09-2011 , 07:54 PM

firefoxmaz11

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,692

whats our best option here? 3 limps to me and i have 30 bbs, raise 4-5x or shove? i feel awkward r'ing and then whiffing flop, limpers are semistations

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (5,000/10,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8153962

MP3: 330,273 (33 bb)
CO: 307,050 (30.7 bb)
BTN: 106,714 (10.7 bb)
SB: 320,898 (32.1 bb)
Hero (BB): 324,112 (32.4 bb)
UTG+1: 224,810 (22.5 bb)
UTG+2: 405,356 (40.5 bb)
MP1: 326,065 (32.6 bb)
MP2: 78,630 (7.9 bb)

Preflop: (9,000) Hero is BB with A

2 folds, MP1 calls 10,000, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 10,000, 2 folds, SB completes, [color="red"]Hero ???

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03-09-2011 , 08:47 PM

abgtr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,855

you can do either shove or raise. I tend to raise. im basically never folding postflop though.

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03-09-2011 , 08:48 PM

mikk2468

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 30

i would shove, free money

. if we would get called, then most of the time we are flipping against PP's or dominating AJ,AQ.

+ we can get easily 10% extra to our stack

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03-09-2011 , 08:59 PM

bill clay

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 209

With all those chips in the pot, and being in the BB, I think the best option is shoving.

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03-09-2011 , 09:15 PM

Blain

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 189

I'd shove

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03-09-2011 , 09:28 PM

greenrebellion

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Shoving is profitable and easy.

Raising is arguably more profitable yet higher variance. We have a very strong hand though and I think raising allows them to make more mistakes then just shoving where they'll usually fold.

Personally I'd make it 50K and go from there.

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03-09-2011 , 10:03 PM

Fish_On_Tilt

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,662

I raise to 45k

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03-09-2011 , 10:57 PM

firefoxmaz11

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,692

yeah i made matters easy and just jammed and got folds but i think im missing a little value but hate playing this OOP if i whiff...

and yeah shuffle i had a big letdown with 100 ppl left when i got it in with KK vs 99 for 1mirrion stack and he flopped a 9 with blinds at 8k/16k........sighhhhhhhh

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03-09-2011 , 11:05 PM

Elachim

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 572

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Originally Posted by greenrebellion

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03-09-2011 , 11:47 PM

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Howtown

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,599

make it 50k

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03-10-2011 , 12:33 AM

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D33P

old hand

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,988

raise it.

we are deep enough and you even might induce a shove from hands that would fold to your shove.

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03-10-2011 , 12:51 AM

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daviid

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,639

id much rather raise to like 40k-45k rather than shoving. i do not want to see anybody folding here and with 32bbs its not like you have to get it in on any flop.

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03-10-2011 , 01:36 AM

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Dry Horse

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 72

+1 on raise to 5x at these stacks. Shoving isn't bad either, but this deep it really screams "AK"

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03-10-2011 , 03:41 AM

#14

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

45678

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03-10-2011 , 03:46 AM

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meekrab

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Originally Posted by Dry Horse

+1 on raise to 5x at these stacks. Shoving isn't bad either, but this deep it really screams "AK"

Which is a sign you should snapshove AA/KK, no?

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03-10-2011 , 03:58 AM

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Dry Horse

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Sounds like a winner to me. Will throw it in the mix.

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03-10-2011 , 09:04 AM

#17

asafderg

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 127

Id shove.

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03-10-2011 , 09:29 AM

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Svetisisti

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,701

had the exact same spot in the exact same tourney, had about 31xBB and shoved AK from BB after two limps, 88 called and didnt hit. Afterwards realized it would have been more +EV to raise to ~45k and get it with cBet, cause these 88 donks will fold vs one overcard on the flop

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03-10-2011 , 10:07 AM

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furo

deviation of equilibrium

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Originally Posted by Svetisisti

getting them to continue with hands that have massive RIOs vs AK is more important.
if you look at the possible combinations of 66-99 compared to QJ-AJ (AQ+/TT+ mostly raises pre) you will see that he will have the broadways 5x as often than pairs.

Last edited by furo; 03-10-2011 at 10:08 AM. Reason: numbers are simplified cause it would be a tl;dr post.

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