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09-09-2015 , 05:35 PM

L3goH3ad

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 207

Should we bet/call, bet/fold, check/fold, check/jam this flop??? I assume my sizing is OK pre. Have no information on Villain other than he's playing 27/18 over 11 hands. I have no idea what my thought process was on the flop other than we give him a chance to B/F Jx but even that's optimistic i think. Thanks.

Pacific, $10.90 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37106346

MP2: 40,300 (80.6 bb)
MP3: 14,437 (28.9 bb)
CO: 1,935 (3.9 bb)
BTN: 31,243 (62.5 bb)
SB: 13,844 (27.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 24,624 (49.2 bb)
UTG+1: 20,845 (41.7 bb)
UTG+2: 17,244 (34.5 bb)
MP1: 8,805 (17.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

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6 folds, BTN raises to 1,717, SB folds, Hero raises to 5,250, BTN calls 3,533

Flop: (11,290) J

(2 players)
BTN bets 5,645, Hero raises to 19,314 and is all-in, BTN calls 13,669

Turn: (49,918) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (49,918) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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09-10-2015 , 05:35 AM

ibimon

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very optimistic indeed, especially on this board.
If it was some fishy min bet or 2bb bet or 1/3 pot bet, I maybe inclined to raise and jam turn, since most of the range in those small bets are under-pairs and draws (FDs+T9+GS) which we stand WA+FE.
As played when he donks, cards go in the much and thank him for saving you a c-bet.
That sizing looks like a fishy AJ/AQ/QJ/JJ/QQ which he's not folding.

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09-10-2015 , 06:01 AM

Ace Acumen

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since fish makes it over 3x pre late in tourny and we are 50bbs effective I'm not trying to 3bet w/ ak here. snap fold on flop

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09-10-2015 , 07:27 AM

furo

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

Why did you check to him on flop? With these pos I would b / c 6.5k otf and jam most turns.
Asuming he is btn. You are bb

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09-10-2015 , 08:07 AM

L3goH3ad

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Originally Posted by Ace Acumen

since fish makes it over 3x pre late in tourny and we are 50bbs effective I'm not trying to 3bet w/ ak here. snap fold on flop

Assume you are flatting then? Or do you mean just rip the lot in?

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09-13-2015 , 08:54 PM

gregz41

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How can the BTN act before us on the flop?

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09-14-2015 , 11:22 AM

L3goH3ad

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Good point, the HH has missed out me checking somehow.

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09-18-2015 , 10:25 AM

Grapes&Cheerios

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Originally Posted by Ace Acumen

since fish makes it over 3x pre late in tourny and we are 50bbs effective I'm not trying to 3bet w/ ak here. snap fold on flop

+1
This is an approach that's overlooked WAY too often in tournament play. It's such a premium spot to undersell your hand. By flatting, you can c/peel on a ton of boards otf, and when you bink it, youre in a great spot to c/call down or position yourself for a value overbet somewhere later in the hand.

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09-18-2015 , 12:00 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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def don't check flop, I would go on the larger side like 6k and jam turn

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Originally Posted by Ace Acumen

since fish makes it over 3x pre late in tourny and we are 50bbs effective I'm not trying to 3bet w/ ak here. snap fold on flop

wat

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09-20-2015 , 05:14 AM

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oldsilver

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,955

haha stacked them
serves them right
JJ is 4!
don't like the post line tho, just bet it like KK, sigh call and get lucky.

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09-20-2015 , 07:08 AM

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ArtanisAce

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 470

I don't understand OP... you check right? he cannot donk being the BU

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09-20-2015 , 07:10 PM

#12

betgo

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CRAI is not terrible. You have overcards, gutshot and bdfd. You are in good shape against his range, and he should bet this flop a lot when you check.

You have a good draw, but it is likely he has a strong range from the preflop sizing and call of 3-bet. There doesn't seem much you are ahead of, as he likely has a pp or a Q or J. Seems like a tricky spot, but not a clear c/f.

Flat calling or ripping it may be better preflop against the 3.5x.

Last edited by betgo; 09-20-2015 at 07:17 PM.

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