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10-04-2010 , 01:55 PM
Villain is 75/0/50 over 4 hands (which is essentially meaningless). It is interesting to note that on one hand, villain only called with AK against a preflop raise. (he was OOP in the small blind); EP opened to 3x, a cold call from MP, and villain just called with AK. Then, villain led for 2/3 pot on an A hi flop and kept betting.

Thoughts on my line, and how would you guys play it?


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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BTN: t2270 75.67 BBs
SB: t2960 98.67 BBs
BB: t2000 66.67 BBs
Hero (UTG): t4920 164 BBs
UTG+1: t820 27.33 BBs
UTG+2: t1380 46 BBs
MP1: t1620 54 BBs
MP2: t2870 95.67 BBs
CO: t1635 54.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to t90, 3 folds, MP2 calls t90, 2 folds, SB calls t75, 1 fold

Flop: (t300) 7 K T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t150, MP2 raises to t300, SB folds, Hero calls t150

Turn: (t900) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t510, Hero calls t510

River: (t1920) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t810, Hero calls t810
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10-04-2010 , 06:48 PM
bump.
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10-04-2010 , 07:03 PM
I think it was fine. his calling here with a tonne of hands in position. the min re raise on the flop looks scary but IMO shouldnt be. i think he min re raises with a tonne of combo draws and can also have the a k q of diamonds. i would think he would raise even more with 2 pair, sets, etc on such a scary board. on the otherside, he could just flat here hoping to get to the river cheaply. the min re raise i believe leans more towards a draw of some sort. i think he does this to induce a check by you in future streets which it does. however im just a fish so take this 'anaylsis' very lightly. what did he have?

Last edited by Rusterboi; 10-04-2010 at 07:21 PM.
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10-04-2010 , 07:11 PM
Looks for me like valuebeting OTF and OTT. Donks like this never bluffs for so small ;o.
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10-04-2010 , 08:30 PM
i thikn the size of the villians bets means you have to call him down there,
even tho,i wouldnt be in love with it
we only have one pair,theres a flush,he could easily play k10 this way

hes getting value on every street,but like i said we are 3 to 1 on turn,3 to 1 on flop,
we are not crippled by this,i like the pot control by check calling,
feels like we are being taken to value town,but value town we go for a nice day out

ravenjetbyrne
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10-04-2010 , 11:15 PM
I am folding at some point. This line is just never a bluff, it's pretty much a strictly value line. Especially when he bets the river instead of checking behind. That sizing is gross.

Fold the turn or fold the river IMO.
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10-05-2010 , 02:09 AM
"they" are so terrible unbalanced that i just want to fold the turn.
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10-05-2010 , 02:12 AM
I would have bet pot and then gone all in when raised. This guy is a donk and could have anything there is no reason he has to have anything bigger than top pair.
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10-05-2010 , 04:43 AM
OTF its ok, but i think i will c/f the turn.
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10-05-2010 , 05:26 AM
geez i dont fold anywhere. id play it the same as op
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10-05-2010 , 05:48 AM
I think we need to fold the flop, to a set.
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10-05-2010 , 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HUHandEH
I think we need to fold the flop, to a set.
Don't be silly.
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10-05-2010 , 08:31 AM
Probz folding river here, his bet sizing just scares me.
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10-05-2010 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jkugelman
Don't be silly.
OK...but really what is villian raising here? UTG raise, flat, bet the flop.....OH yeah...I'm being silly.

Villian is setting the trap with decent hand, everyone thinks he's a spewtard, but why can't he flop two pair, or a set here? His Spazzyness is one reason I'm folding the flop. As nice as it is I think we are beat.

Curious to know the results of this one
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10-05-2010 , 11:52 PM
Not sure if you guys read my "reads" portion of my post. He flats AK preflop and leads flop when he hits TPTK.

I want to fold flop or turn tbh.

Results below:
I chop on the river to his AdKx.
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10-06-2010 , 01:31 AM
Fwiw I haven't read the results posted by OP since I'd rather post my 2 cents before reading it. But honestly I'll probably get flamed but I'd fold the flop as ghey as that sounds. Our hand has terrible RIO and we basically can't ever really improve to where we want to go all in (except for a K, which still might not be good). The reason I'd fold the flop is that we're c/f virtually every turn. I mean why are we calling flop if we want to fold turn/river on complete bricks? Just because it's a minraise doesn't mean we have to call imo. Villain has a player left to act on a super drawy board and he opts to minraise. That is just too strong imo. I'm interested in more opinions. But I'm not calling down ever.
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