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09-09-2009 , 05:43 PM

djdowork612

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 38

No real read on the player..he had been pretty quiet from the few hands I had seen him play (table change) just did not have a good feeling about it and felt i was flipping at best. Is this a snap call or an easy fold?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t50 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t1910 M = 2.01
CO: t4760 M = 5.01
Hero (BTN): t6260 M = 6.59
SB: t8070 M = 8.49
BB: t7320 M = 7.71
UTG: t5565 M = 5.86
UTG+1: t14615 M = 15.38

Pre Flop: (t950) Hero is BTN with A

3 folds, CO raises to t3600, 3 folds

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09-09-2009 , 06:31 PM

Luke_T

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 30

i fold, not sure if its right. But you still have 10bb find a better spot

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09-09-2009 , 06:38 PM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

come on... easy call/isopush

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09-09-2009 , 06:39 PM

ohcrocsle

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 612

i shove just to see what people 9x here.

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09-09-2009 , 06:45 PM

smaug8821

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,835

I hate when people don't just shove there. It makes me think they're trying to fool you into shoving or something. That said, I just shove and watch them flip over KK.

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09-10-2009 , 02:43 AM

zebkiwi

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 554

I HATE these f'd up spots
I dont thnk its an easy fold, I thnk its a spite shove

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09-10-2009 , 11:35 AM

djdowork612

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 38

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Originally Posted by smaug8821

I hate when people don't just shove there. It makes me think they're trying to fool you into shoving or something. That said, I just shove and watch them flip over KK.

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09-10-2009 , 11:45 AM

Knut_Hamsun

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call and see them flip over 55 or a3.

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09-10-2009 , 11:51 AM

Foks

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,355

Regardless of your feeling you are usually well ahead of villain's range at a short handed table when stacks are this short in a $2, ppl don't know that open shoving is an option alot of the time, doesn't mean their range is super tight or anything.

Hero Shoves.

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09-10-2009 , 12:50 PM

#10

IFlopRoyals

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 38

no question that u have to shove here imo villain only has roughly 12bbs so his shoving range should be very light here. A lot of players still just raise with 12bbs instead of shoving but this mostly doesnt mean they have stronger hands. And if u get lucky hes a complete donk and raise-folds with 12bbs
easy shove

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09-10-2009 , 12:51 PM

#11

Keeper1125

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easiest standardest gititinaments

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09-11-2009 , 12:28 AM

#12

JustifiableCause

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I would fold conservatively

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09-11-2009 , 03:35 AM

#13

JasonInDallas

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,898

Either ahead or behind is going to be close absent any reads. Folding or calling or shoving IMO are going to be pretty close in cEV here so any mistakes you make are likely to be small.

If blinds aren't going up soon and/or it's a 180 where 7-handed won't last for long then I fold and wait for better spot. If it's a 45-man I probably shove because we're likely to be 7-handed for a while which means my effective M is even lower than the indicated M=6.6, plus the players in 45s are slightly better than in 180s if you ask me.

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09-11-2009 , 04:04 AM

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bigdaddydrew

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 263

I would lean towards folding. Someone who's too cute to push with a stack that small probably has some real power in their hand. Better than AJo anyway.

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09-11-2009 , 04:19 AM

#15

Protential

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12,460

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydrew

I would lean towards folding. Someone who's too cute to push with a stack that small probably has some real power in their hand. Better than AJo anyway.

no

AJ+ 10bb+2$BI= nuts.

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09-11-2009 , 04:56 AM

#16

pheal

adept

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,015

jeeez, easiest fistpump shove ever. doubt its even close. plz dont fold next time!

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