Full Tilt Poker Game #9152135810: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (70005139), Table 2 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:13:45 ET - 2008/11/24

I Raised with pocket AA (and went to a show down) fiew hands prior to this one , so on this one I decided to slow play my AA preflop.

Please tell me if you would play in the same situation differently AND WHY!?
My opponent seems like a normal player.
P.S. Please do not tell me about slow playing AA preflop,skip that part period, all I am interested is in your opinion on my post flop play.

dont mind the flop check

hafta bet turn

plz never fold this, snapcall

WHY? and WHY? Please be more specific .

Wow, that was ugly. OK I'm not a big fan of open limping because if someone raises and you reraise, now you are playing your hand face up. If many limp behind you are oop to 4 or 5 people without any clue as to what they are holding. Moving on...as played the board is drawy so bet the flop. If you somehow get to the turn without betting you have to bet because your hand is extremely well disguised, try to extract some value on it. I would never let this hand get to the river without betting. As somehow you have gotten here please do not fold you are way ahead of villains range. You have basically told him that you have no interest whatsoever in the pot and it makes sense for him to take a stab with ATC. In the future I would suggest you not be so passive with premium hands you are just hemmoraging chips playing this way.

But you see what made me suspicious is his overbet .....It's why I didn't call on the river,(Personally I do overbet the pot on flop when I flop monsters VS players whom I consider strong and often they are making move on me right on the spot or when I check the turn) he seems like a good player, so I thought he was using reverse psychology, so it's why I folded on the flop.VS loose player I would push on the river in the same situation
P.S. May be I just see monsters under my bed...

This is a very common playing flaw that I believe is especially prevalent with beginners. I know I was nittish when I started. You have to keep in mind that it's highly unlikely that your opponent has a monster. Think in terms of "what hands is he likely to have" rather than "what if he has the nuts". Players that can successfully think on higher levels ie "I'll bet more to make it look like I'm buying it and get payed off with my trips" are pretty rare at $2 buy ins. Rather its more likely he's thinking "I bet a lot maybe he will fold, internet is fun, whats for dinner?"

I like betting the flop because it's pure value... you'll be getting called by Jx, Q10, hearts, and plenty other worse hands in the $5.50 range...

You have to bet turn because at some point you have to get money in the pot. Villain PROBABLY doesn't not have you beat, but probably has outs... don't let him draw for free. You may even be getting called by T8 here... just valuetown bet it.

River as played is a call... betting 355 into a 200 pot isn't exactly endearing but you've checked through the entire hand so at least your hand is disguised... at $5.50 sng's this could be value betting a Q, a 9, or bluffing... getting 3.55 to 5 means you need 71% equity on the pot, and it appears to be a breakeven call here imo

basically you played the hand so poorly you don't know where you are.. you should have made villain pay for his draws if he has a 10... if he has a king or better than that's just a cooler... checking all the way and folding is a huge mistake and a major loss of equity

flop check is fine, IMO. My general rule in these spots is to let one street of betting go. So either bet flop, check turn if called. Or check flop, bet turn if checked back. You need to give villain a chance to pay with his 10x, Jx, Qx, and fd. The checks are for pot control, as it's hard for villain to call 3 streets of value with less than a king. River sucks, as now, your hand becomes essentially a bluff catcher. You have to be good 40% of the time. Most players don't turn a Q or J into a bluff here; villain's range here consists of: 9x, Tx, boats, and air. Boats, air, and 9x are all discounted, as the 200 chips really don't represent much to vy for. Air could've fired the turn, boats would have to slowplay to death like you, and 9x is still a bit of a stretch. This looks like a straight nearly always. I'd fold, but I would NEVER get to the river in this fashion.

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Good post swift arrow. Nothing more to add!

the only street I agree with is the river fold because I think he turns up with a 10 pretty much always

however given that you have failed to bet with AA at any point in the hand you have to call as you never have AA in this spot.

well i'm interested in telling you that you're ******ed for limping AA. so there.

Seems like you need a new pair of glasses buddy,and you need to pay more attention as well ... Just go all way to the top and reed my explanation one more time WHY I DECIDED TO LIMP PREFLOP.. douche
P.S. At list explain why do you think that I have to always raise preflop with AA??

seriously, listen to him and raise pre. thank NS later.

your goal in poker is not to trick your opponents. it is to make the most money.
limping is stupid unless there is a specific reason for it.

bet flop. check through a blank turn. call river bet/ bet if checked to.

and raise pre.

You don't always have to. Say, if you're heads-up, or 3 handed. Or if you're desperate to mixup your play, and against GOOD opponents (against low-stakes opponents, there is no such thing). Or if you're in the SB, and every time you've just completed, he raises, possibly shoves.

There are many reasons why you can limp aces. But there are 100 times as many why you shouldn't, and this is one of those times.

Just because you think you had justification doesn't mean that said play isn't up for discussion. And calling someone a douche just because they're calling you out is a good way to never have your strategy posts answered again.

If you raised pre, do you think theres as good a chance there would be this thread?

You want to make your desicions as easy as possible, especially in MTT poker where short stacks are rife. And esp at small stakes, overall raising pre and playing AA the 'standard' way will be the most +EV move, as how horribly they play in general post fclop

I would listen to nutshot if I were you OP he knows wat hes talking about. I mean just wtf are u doing in this hand, every street is so bad, why did you even post this.

You have aces how can u not bet this in a 2 way pot vs the bb.

Youll gain alot more information if u spend some time looking and understanding all the mistakes you made in your hand yourself instead of mindlessly posting it on here because you cannot be bothered to think.

Well calling someone who is trying to learn ****** -disrespectful, so I guess we are even...

Well If I would have all the answers.....
And one more thing,Sir leave your emotions to your self,please.If you can give me an advice -Thank you,but if you just wanna talk how stupid and lazy I am... I do not need that.
The bottom line is THERE IS A QUESTION_GIVE ME AN ANSWER , your emotions...well they will not help me to improve.

'Youll gain alot more information if u spend some time looking and understanding all the mistakes you made in your hand yourself instead of mindlessly posting it on here because you cannot be bothered to think.'

Theres your answer?

Please don't limp preflop. Whilst in full ring I will concede that open limping is very occasionally ok in 6-max it absolutely 100% is not in my opinion. Personally I never limp in 6 max (including overlimping) at all with stacks deeper than 50bbs or lower than ~20 and still rarely between them but whatever the stack depth I am never ever open limping. It is so much more profitable to be raising your whole range because you will be called in multiple spots far less often so there will be more opportunities to win chips with a c-bet even when you miss. You should also be raising a wide enough range that thinking villains don't instantly put you on a really tight range raising UTG in 6max so you don't need to limp to disguise big hands either.

Having limped preflop checking either flop or turn is ok but checking both is really bad. You have a hand that is miles better than he will think you have so you need to try to get some value from him.

3-4 hands prior to this one I had pocket AA and went to a show down,I got lucky again and dealt pocket AA.Then I thought I should slow play them and hopefully would be able to go to the show down and show them, so that way any opponents who is paying any attention to the game will have a hard time to figure if I have a junk or monster when I limp, that way I would be able to steal some pots in the future by betting on flops that totally miss me
I was already terrorizing the table for the past few rounds, so I thought It would be a good time to switch around a little bit. Now reason that I did not bet on the flop, I thought if I would bet on the flop it would be a good time for my opponent to make a move, i do not think he would just call me (ether fold or push), but on the turn board became very ugly and when he overbet on the River, i thought It would be just better to loose my Big blind instead of making him stronger....
P.S. I usually do not limp with AA, unless I have a very aggressive opponent or someone with a very short stack who is sitting after me and desperate to make a move,and after they bet I RR them..

To be honest I'd have done everything the same as you did..... except open limp preflop... and check down, and fold the river... otherwise all the same...

Oh and I also probably wouldnt have announced this play on here either lol... but other than that we are totally on the same wavelength, nice hand

If you have been what appears to be loose at the table, this is a better time to raise. you hope someone gets frustrated and fires a 3bet at you.

You were afraid that youd get no action from AA, gotta raise though.

I think you are right.