villain has been kinda tight, kinda active, nothing significant. haven't seen him do much post flop. got his stack from having KK in the bb after i 3bet someone else with AK.

yeah so line? shove, 3bet small? call?

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

MP2: t39601
CO: t87410
BTN: t31564
SB: t16975
BB: t40195
UTG: t7600
UTG+1: t19325
Hero (UTG+2): t89731
MP1: t8725

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+2 with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to t3400, 2 folds, CO calls t3400, 3 folds

Flop: (t9725) 4 5 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t6200, CO raises to t14400


forgot to post the hand lol and cant figure it out to edit it in.

unless the CO has a really loose VPIP (like >35) i'd shove this all day. hopefully you will be against a flush draw or overpair. i highly doubt he would raise with 44/55 here since hardly anyone ever raises the nuts when in position.

I agree, I shove and expect to see another pocket pair.

Yeah if someone is dumb enough to call there with a 4 they get my stack. Shove this all day.

shove

vote for pushing.

Shove, he's very often going broke here with an overpair, or 2overs+FD, some AsKs, KsQs...

Nh sir, well played...

just a thought since stacks are deep...if we shove isn't he folding most hands we beat? Who considers a reraise to 30K or so...

In the spot I may shove but is there a better value line? I mean if we shove what are we looking to accomplish? He will probably fold his draws with that much of a stack and we ant him in the pot assuming we are ahead...just want to charge him a bad price

yeah just get it on flop, or make it 40k and most likely get it in and if he calls go any turn. if you rr on flop its jus the same on shoving, most would realize you aren't putting that much in then folding.

ssnyc that's a nice idea to put here about 30-35k, I really like it.

yeas but a bad player may call a raise with a draw but not want to put his tourney life on the line...if we push we are hoping at best he has 1010-JJ ish hands...QQ and KK probably reraise pre...smaller than 1010 folds and we lose a lot...

flatting the raise is ballsy and very deceptive...Would he play a draw this strong?

How about flat calling and donk leading any non spade turn?

Not saying this is what I would do but reading HSMTT makes me realize how much these guys concentrate on maximizing value from worse hands rather than stressing over getting outdrawn

ssync, i wouldn't worry too much about hsmtt advice in against a random in an 11r, play is much different than a 100r. also in this hand if you flat, both checking and leading turn kinda suck. if we go for c/r and he checks behind, disaster. i really think he'd only fire a second barrel with air/something he'd go all the way with on flop anyway. if we c/c lead, he's probably flatting his weakish overpairs and, depending on what cards come, may get away from them on river/maybe turn. his stronger overpairs (JJ-QQ maybe KK) he's going broke on the flop anyway.

and yeah, i shoved. just thought the hands he made that raise with with+i'm ahead of wouldn't mind a shove at all. he had 55 which sucks but happens. just making sure the overbet is good, if we were like 100bbs deep to start the hand i think a smaller 3 bet to maybe 40k would be better as it's more possibly a bluff.

Don't flat OOP. We're not going to induce bluffs if we then go ahead & lead turn. And checking turn could give a very bad free card. IP it would be fine. Stacking off with AA is fine here & 3-betting is the way to do it.

gotta push I reckon