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08-13-2015 , 07:35 PM
Doing a postmortem on a hand I think I played fairly badly at the time.

PokerStars - $1.32+$0.18|80/160 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 23.76 BB (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
UTG: 22.68 BB (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
CO: 11.81 BB (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 20.51, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 40)
Hero (BTN): 13.89 BB
SB: 12.23 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.13 BB) Hero has A 4

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (6.13 BB, 2 players) 4 2 2
BB bets 1 BB, Hero ???
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Pre: is it worth jamming here? 14bb is a little deeper than I usually jam, but our hand is awkward to play postflop

F: As played, I think we need to reraise to maybe 3BB here? Villain is unlikely to beat us at the moment, but don't want to be giving him cheap draws.

Anything else I overlooked here?
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08-13-2015 , 10:38 PM
I think he just bets small because this flop doesnt hit your range and he exploits the bubble aswell as only with a hand you are going to raise him. You can easily raise here.
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08-13-2015 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by birchill
F: As played, I think we need to reraise to maybe 3BB here? Villain is unlikely to beat us at the moment, but don't want to be giving him cheap draws.
And then what? Fold to shoves? Call shoves? What if he flats and shoves any turn card that isn't 4/2/Ax? Curious about your plan for the rest of the hand.

Also, raising to 3 BBs gives him a fine price to "draw" because he'd be calling 2 BBs into a pot of 9.5 BBs. That said, what exactly do you feel he's drawing to here? Not a draw heavy board at all.

I'm normally raising flop for value, expecting BB to get in any 4x. Pot is 6.5 BBs and we've got 11.5 left, I don't think a shove here is terrible (even tho it's double pot). Could raise to 5.5 BBs and call shove.
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08-14-2015 , 04:25 AM
Thanks for comments.

Draw was the wrong term, I meant that I would usually have a hard time continuing with the hand if a high card lands ott and villain bets out.

My plan was was to call any flop reshove from villain, then (probably) jam the turn if non-threatening and/or villain checks. Good point re sizing- I think I do tend to value bet too small and need to pay attention to that.
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08-14-2015 , 05:07 PM
Only options pre against these villains imo are minraise shove or fold. I like minraise/fold a lot with this hand vs these guys.

OTF you should call because.. he can have the nuts, his 3bet is kinda high compared to his vpip but the sample is small so we cant read this stat any different than 4-13%. when he has nothing, you have forced yourself into a small informational raise in hopes that he then decides to spaz out. or you are raising for protection from hands that are unlikely to outdraw you on the turn more than his air spazes. so give the man some rope.

basically you should hope he plays his air or your hand loses its value. i dont think this villian is likely to exploit the bubble much. if turn is a T and he shove I think you can comfortably call. this seems like a bad card but actually it removes a lot of his value range since he is unlikely to take this line with 66. sure sometimes we get owned, but if he plays ~20% of air with more than minbet on the turn we will break even versus 'overs that turned us.'

jmo
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08-14-2015 , 07:14 PM
I think you can raise or jam pre, but its a little early to be jamming (close) as played i am def reraising on flop to get it in or jamming. we only have 11bbs
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