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A4o 14bb shove, too wide? A4o 14bb shove, too wide?

11-15-2011 , 02:23 PM
This was like 20 players left out of 800, so already ITM but payout is top 3 heavy. In retrospect I think this is too wide, right?

    Poker Stars, $4.40 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 750 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11068322

    BTN: 113,977 (19 bb)
    SB: 71,574 (11.9 bb)
    BB: 228,135 (38 bb)
    MP1: 126,142 (21 bb)
    MP2: 112,368 (18.7 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 84,238 (14 bb)
    CO: 111,860 (18.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A 4
    2 folds, Hero raises to 83,488 and is all-in
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    11-15-2011 , 04:58 PM
    Probably. At this point in the tournament you should be paying very close attention to how the blinds react vs. your LP opens. If they're huge nits, you can steal more often from (especially from HJ doesn't look as conspicuous), but id rather be jamming hands like A8s,A9/910s/J10/KQ,KJ that are gonna play much better if called by small-med pairs. Generally, ppl are gonna be playing nitty to FT in a 4$ tournament, so look for spots where they aren't likely to stand up to you and juice them.
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    11-15-2011 , 06:56 PM
    its marginal, but some reads, any reads, would be realllll nice

    I'm a variance nit so I would fold but some solid math could shut me right up

    heres a plug for my old pal jitxpert, this spreadsheet lets you know exactly whats up if you can conjure up some semi-accurate calling ranges:

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23...nk-you-824728/
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    11-16-2011 , 12:11 AM
    Fold.
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    11-16-2011 , 06:51 AM
    fold ur hand plays really bad if called

    I would jam Axs from CO+ with nitty table
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    11-16-2011 , 07:37 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Strife
    heres a plug for my old pal jitxpert, this spreadsheet lets you know exactly whats up if you can conjure up some semi-accurate calling ranges:

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23...nk-you-824728/
    Thanks, I'll look into that.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by V-Delaney
    Fold.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jedzarybe
    fold ur hand plays really bad if called

    I would jam Axs from CO+ with nitty table
    Yeah, I knew this right after I shoved but the mess was already done. Will serve me as a lesson for the future
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