villian moved to my table 10 or so hands ago. no reads. has a good OPR %96% plays mostly $11 and $12 mtts. This is an $11. He hasn't seen me do anything except fold.

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 9 players
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Hero (UTG+2): t32776
MP1: t42723
MP2: t18652
CO: t14354
BTN: t37258
SB: t7484
BB: t9630
UTG: t19580
UTG+1: t7763

Pre Flop: (t1350) Hero is UTG+2 with A 3
2 folds, Hero raises to t2000, 5 folds, BB raises to t9580 all in, Hero calls t7580

Flop: (t19910) 5 8 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t19910) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t19910) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

there's 10380 in the pot + 7580 on my call / my call 7580 is 2.37-1. Or is my math wrong? And if it is right then aren't basically always supposed to call an all in if you make a 3x BB raise?

ugh...don't raise A 3 suited from UTG+2...especially when there are shorties in the blinds...

then fold pre again!

as played call

your math is wrong there is 12330 in the pot when it comes back to you and it is 7580 to call you are getting less than 2/1.

Folding pre is much better and I think I fold to his shove but I hate open raise / folding with 16bb effective.

Ok, I`m posting a stove for the first time, so bear with me.

Odds are about 1.62:1, or 38.1% winning chance by my math.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

184,928,832 games 0.005 secs 36,985,766,400 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.459% 63.72% 01.74% 117830087 3222920.00
{66+, A8s+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 34.541% 32.80% 01.74% 60652905 3222920.00
{Ac3c }

I think it`s close, but a fold. Villain is close to desperate (hence the range assigned), but can conceivably fold here and start pushing wide in two hand`s time (which made me tighten his range a little).

Oh, and fold pf.

Fold PF is super standard here, even if table is ultra nitty you still don't wanna steal into shorties light.

doesnt matter now you gotta call. 2.37:1 is way enough. realize against that range above...dunno why he stoved it and then said its a fold , anyways, against that range you need 1.9:1...

This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think thats a very generous range for a guy reshoving an EP raiser who's making it more than 3x, I would shove much tighter than that without a read.

OP I would be 2.5xing it if I decided to open here

you are not getting 2.37/1

you cannot count the amount you have to call you are getting 10380/7530 or 1.37/1

This is a simple fold

12930/7580 = 1.7:1
still not a call, i had to look at it again.

im not sure how youre calculating pot odds.

theres 1350 in the pot with antes and blinds, we make it 2k, shoves for 9580 so we have to call 7580 into 12930.

its less then 2-1 very simple fold... and you had no regard for the stacks behind you man! there are 3 reship stacks

you're right I took it from the OP. Either way we are not getting the price to call

Cos it`s 1.62:1 and I thought I was been a bit loose w/ the range anyways.