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12-28-2011 , 09:28 PM

JayJay00297

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 364

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IR was 15/15 over 59 hands, 80% CO steal(4/5)
3better was 18/16 9.1%3bet over 82 hands
I've mostly been folding last orbits..

What range do we 4b ship??

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11447492

BTN: 181,136 (45.3 bb)
SB: 212,763 (53.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 84,980 (21.2 bb)
MP1: 76,560 (19.1 bb)
MP2: 58,445 (14.6 bb)
MP3: 64,503 (16.1 bb)
CO: 98,688 (24.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with xxxxxxxx
3 folds, CO raises to 8,000, BTN raises to 21,499, 2 folds

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12-29-2011 , 12:38 AM

Fish_On_Tilt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,662

At a guess 99+, AQs+

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12-29-2011 , 01:42 AM

flybine_03

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,414

Yeah, would never do it superlight here as I feel he is going to call you with most of his range, getting 2:1 if im not mistaking.

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12-29-2011 , 04:19 AM

prat1234

banned

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 382

Personally I love this particular tourney... A lot of regs in these though.... So, I am assuming that they are fairly good.. And they would have def noticed each others tendency... Also, combined with the fact that you have been folding very often You can shove with like AJs+ and 66+.. but this is mostly based on their stats .. when you decide to ship light in such situations, It always helps to know if they are a reg or not... also check how often has the 3-better faced a 4bet, and what has he done in those situations... In a normal situation I am not shoving here with less that top 5% of my range...

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12-29-2011 , 07:15 PM

JoeyJoJo Shabadu

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,355

TT+ AQs+ and minus AA. Tight but we're 3rd and we have more chips than everyone behind us in later hands.

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12-30-2011 , 08:27 AM

JITxpert

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,941

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabadu

TT+ AQs+ and minus AA. Tight but we're 3rd and we have more chips than everyone behind us in later hands.

This range seems good... TT and AQ tough calls for me. Thing is, I don't think BTN is light here becuase:

* SB has a great stack to 4 bet and apply max ICM pressure to BTN
* Hero has a great reshove stack

So I am thinking BTN is going to 3bet/call most if not all of his range here.

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12-30-2011 , 09:57 AM

DrPoita

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 6

JJ+, AQs+

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12-30-2011 , 01:11 PM

JITxpert

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,941

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Originally Posted by JITxpert

thinking more about this, we are also facing a ton of ICM pressure here, so we have to have more than a typical +cEV equity for this play to be +$EV....

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12-30-2011 , 06:21 PM

V-Delaney

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,835

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Originally Posted by DrPoita

JJ+, AQs+

TT >>>> AQs!

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01-01-2012 , 01:56 PM

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Proudwalker

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,244

if you shoving TT+ or even JJ+ how comes you begin from AQ and not AK?

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