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11-29-2012 , 03:37 PM

2012

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,639

I don't really have much info on the player since he just recently joined our table, but I clicked search and saw he was in a few big mtts and was playing like 8 so I figured he's somewhat semi regish atleast.. but is there any point to stack off with 7's having the good stack/edge we have at this point?

Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14796291

MP1: 25,506 (12.8 bb)
MP2: 50,520 (25.3 bb)
MP3: 67,676 (33.8 bb)
Hero (CO): 96,530 (48.3 bb)
BTN: 38,190 (19.1 bb)
SB: 42,174 (21.1 bb)
BB: 16,521 (8.3 bb)
UTG+1: 56,397 (28.2 bb)
UTG+2: 37,275 (18.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7

5 folds, Hero raises to 4,000, BTN raises to 37,990 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls 33,990

Flop: (80,780) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (80,780) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (80,780) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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11-29-2012 , 06:31 PM

DjHitzz

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,215

tldr;

nh

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11-29-2012 , 07:46 PM

Chloe O'Brian

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 4,597

I prefer a fold here, think I'd call with 99+ AQ+, possibly AJ.

Doubt he 3b ships 20bigs with any hands we dominate other than the lower PPs but that's a small range of hands. May be +cEV to call mathematically but it'll be marginal and we have a v.nice stack to wait for better spots with. Inb4 someone explains why I'm wrong but that's how I'd play it.

Last edited by Chloe O'Brian; 11-29-2012 at 07:47 PM. Reason: looked at results after post, unlucky!

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11-29-2012 , 07:58 PM

Gardemeister1

grinder

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 449

It's close, 77 would probably be the top of my folding range and I would call with 88. Since he's new to the table he'll also be readless

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11-29-2012 , 09:24 PM

THCPoker

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 423

really really close

I guess call w/ your stack, but I can understand ppl finding fold here

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11-30-2012 , 02:28 AM

roNAA

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 428

seems like a perfect spot for v to reship wide. you opening co, him with a great reship stack. 22-66 is very very much in his range here... if you lose you still have 29bb. If we want to accumulate every single chip in a tournament you cant be raise/folding spots like this im calling here.

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11-30-2012 , 02:57 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

snapping this readless.

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11-30-2012 , 04:26 AM

bs_jayhawk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

I think this is going to be breakeven at best versus the majority of semi regs. If he was a random, it's a snap-fold. A reasonable range for him is A9s/66 or something. If he gets any tighter than this you are getting more and more boned.

I'm really arrogant but I would fold because I assume a pretty decent edge over the field and would much rather have your stack than the resulting stack after losing. Snapping 20bb stacks with mid pockets requires some substantial statistics to back it up. Don't just assume he's 3-bet jamming perfectly because he's playing more than 1 table.

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11-30-2012 , 04:37 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

your edge comes from finding and getting in +EV spots and not from passing on +EV spots

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11-30-2012 , 04:53 AM

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bs_jayhawk

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,645

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Originally Posted by furo

your edge comes from finding and getting in +EV spots and not from passing on +EV spots

i'm sorry your understanding of tournament strategy relies on such a gross oversimplification

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11-30-2012 , 11:08 AM

#11

2012

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,639

Ty for all responses

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11-30-2012 , 11:36 AM

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furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

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Originally Posted by bs_jayhawk

i'm sorry your understanding of tournament strategy relies on such a gross oversimplification

this is a simple spot
you beat his range, there is money in the pot.
obv we should fold because of our gigantic edge!

LOGIC?!?!?

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11-30-2012 , 01:03 PM

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mathiace

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 266

Def call.

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