Im personally noticing that in these turbos sometimes you have to make these kind of hero calls especially if you have your opponents covered.....I thought I would be in a situation like 99-QQ vs AK....Hate to be results oriented but when the flop came I wanted to break my laptop over my knee like Bo Jackson did baseball bats!




Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 7 players
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SB: t2400
BB: t3785
UTG: t5530
UTG+1: t2480
MP: t8110
Hero (CO): t5225
BTN: t2715

Pre Flop: (t550) Hero is CO with 7 7
3 folds, Hero raises to t750, BTN raises to t2690 all in, SB calls t2250 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t5925) 3 7 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t5925) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t5925) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

shove pre imo

this. standard

The largest stack left has 15 BB to start the hand, so I'll agree with open shoving.

As played, you're getting 3.2:1 to call, and you have 26% equity if both players are as tight as {88+, AJ+}, so call there too.

I actually found that I was losing a ton of value shoving hands like 55-88 pre. I started limping here and found that on the rare times that I hit quads or even trips I was often getting very little action here by leading out with a 1/2 to full psb. Anyone have ideas on how to extract max value on hands like these for set mining or quads on f/t? Without being results oriented I think we lost too much value on low sets to some very bad players by bet-sizing incorrectly.

This is a good question....I would like to know the same.

set mining w/ 21 BB is -EV, u lost a ton of value when u limp w/ m/h PPs.

if u raise and someone flats and u dont hit a set/quad u can shove or fold, since u commit urself w/ betting here. if u shove u fold out all hands ur a big favorite against, and if u get called u have 2 outs most of the time. if u fold instead shove, just fold pre! odds u hit a set on the flop is 7:1. u dont have the implied odds w/ these stacks.

u can see u have the same 2 options pre and on the flop, but w/ shove pre u have much more FE, so u can increase ur stack w/ 10% more often. also u get the max value in this way as u can flip against overs in a big part of the time (~40-50%, as more times u flip as higher ur PP).