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02-13-2012 , 09:00 PM
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Not sure if i should have pushed BF, and if i should have folded after he pushes after the flop?

    Merge, $2 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
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    BB: 2,829 (18.9 bb)
    Hero (CO): 2,002 (13.3 bb)
    BTN: 1,760 (11.7 bb)
    SB: 2,409 (16.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
    Hero raises to 350, BTN calls 350, SB folds, BB calls 200

    Flop: (1,125) 8 8 J (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 562, BTN folds, BB raises to 2,479 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,090 and is all-in

    Turn: (4,429) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (4,429) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    02-14-2012 , 09:10 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Schrambow
    Not sure if i should have pushed BF, and if i should have folded after he pushes after the flop?

      Merge, $2 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11872322

      BB: 2,829 (18.9 bb)
      Hero (CO): 2,002 (13.3 bb)
      BTN: 1,760 (11.7 bb)
      SB: 2,409 (16.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
      Hero raises to 350, BTN calls 350, SB folds, BB calls 200

      Flop: (1,125) 8 8 J (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets 562, BTN folds, BB raises to 2,479 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,090 and is all-in

      Turn: (4,429) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: (4,429) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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      With your stack size and hand I think you NEED to raise 3BB pre here, makes the pot 6.5 pre with 9.5 back and enables a shove on the flop.

      By raising to 2.5 pre you make a shove on flop far more difficult leading to complications, and then have to ponder raise/fold. If the plan is to raise/call then it is a lot stronger to just be able to shove it yourself
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      02-14-2012 , 09:25 AM
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      Agree, you are raising for value here, and you have not even raised 2.5BB. I think i'd raise at least 400 here, probably 450. This will either induce a shove, or isolate 1 player post flop (hopefully). 350 is too small, although the BTN appears to be a fish with his flat call pre!
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      02-15-2012 , 12:31 AM
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      Raise at least to 400 to isolate the player
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      02-15-2012 , 07:29 AM
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      Against loose passive fish that I assume populate this buyin I think shoving for value is best; they are going to call anything from a minraise to a shove with a lot of Ax, every pp, most broadways so may as well get in pre.

      Against a weak aggro table I like minraising to induce shoves. If there are good players in the blinds who I expect to recognise a small raise from 12bb CO for exactly what it is I prefer a shove with my entire range.
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      02-15-2012 , 09:23 AM
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      shove pre unless you expect to get 3bet shoved on wide, in which case open to induce.
      in rare cases where you expect to get called very wide by one of the players (but he won't call a shove and wont 3bet wide) you can do something like open 4x and jam practically any flop.
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      02-15-2012 , 10:52 AM
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      might create a sort of stop and go, raising 4 bb and shoving 100% of flops.
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      02-15-2012 , 12:42 PM
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      How the hell do you guys suggest just shoving tens here? Let's shove aces too! Insane imo let tards be tards and call with stupid hands.
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      02-15-2012 , 01:12 PM
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      Obviously you fold this 3 way on flop after he check raises. Your behind.
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      02-16-2012 , 06:05 AM
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      Against bad players its the best to exploit them by making a bigger raise and shove on almost any Flop like some people already said.
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